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style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'> <td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Note the cozy relationship between the RCC [represented by debunks] and <span class=SpellE>jews</span> [represented by <span class=SpellE>jon</span> <span class=SpellE>moseley</span>:<o:p></o:p></span></p> </td> </tr> </table> </div> </div> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'> debunks [mailto:debunks@sbcglobal.net] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 05, 2008 12:21 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Faith Full; Jack Stone<br> <b>Cc:</b> Mik; Virginia F. Raines;</span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><span style='font-family:"Julius","serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>If you do not study them, how can you ever hope to be able to refute them, Mr. Stone?&nbsp; Remember, the writings of the Church Fathers are replete with detailed replies to heresies that were abounding in their day.&nbsp; These satanically inspired perversions must be refuted so they will not lead others astray.&nbsp; Your faith is strong and unassailable, but others are not as well informed as yourself.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Julius","serif";mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>-------Original Message-------</span></i><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>From:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> <a href="mailto:jackstoneisright@gmail.com">Jack Stone</a> [pseudonym for <a href="jackstone.htm"><span class=SpellE><span class=GramE>jon</span></span> <span class=SpellE>moseley</span></a>]<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>Date:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> 9/3/2008 6:03:29 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>To:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'> <a href="mailto:alecoque33@gmail.com">Faith Full</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>Subject:</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> Re: GOLD STANDARD HAS BEEN THE RUIN OF STATES<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>How would reading it tell you whether it was a fake or not?</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span class=GramE><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'>If reading the contents could tell you something useful, then sure.</span></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>But the information proving it is a fake is OUTSIDE the document.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>In my example, if I wrote a FAKE book by Mohammed, you would not know by reading it whether it is fake or not.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>But then<span class=GramE>&nbsp; OUTSIDE</span> the book, you watch my interview on television laughing about how I wrote this fake book that isn't real.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>After you already have the information from OUTSIDE the document telling you it is not real, what more can you learn by reading the contents INSIDE the book?</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>What will you learn by reading a fake book?</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>I say the same thing about the Quran, or indeed the Talmud, or the Book of Mormon.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>A demon appearing to Mohammed masquerading as an angel of light led Mohammed astray with lies.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Do I want to study those lies?&nbsp; Why?&nbsp; If I know they are lies from a demon, how will it help me to study them?</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family: "Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Joseph Smith claims that an angel appeared to him.&nbsp; Again, Jesus tells me that no new gospel will be given.&nbsp; Jesus' gospel must be preached to the entire world, and THEN the end will come.&nbsp; Jesus tells me to NOT LISTEN to false prophets that come after Him, but when Jesus returns He will split the sky like lightning and ride in power on the clouds, and we will have no question that it is Jesus.</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>So do I want to study the Book of Mormon, after I already know it is not from God?</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>Jack Stone</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:49 PM, Faith Full &lt;<a href="mailto:alecoque33@gmail.com">alecoque33@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>No, but if you don't know it's a fake, and you don't trust those who say it's valid, isn't it better to read it and find out for yourself? </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; From: <a href="mailto:debunks@sbcglobal.net" __doClobber__=true>debunks@sbcglobal.<wbr>net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; To: Richard <span class=GramE>Niemela ;</span>&nbsp;&nbsp;;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; <a href="mailto:houseisrael@yahoogroups.com" __doClobber__=true>houseisrael@<wbr>yahoogroups.<wbr>com</a> ; Jacob <span class=GramE>Israel ;</span> Jon Moseley<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; Cc: Dick <span class=GramE>Eastman ;</span> <a href="mailto:corvuswire@verizon.net" __doClobber__=true>corvuswire@verizon.<wbr>net</a> ; <a href="mailto:ardeshir@mac.com" __doClobber__=true>ardeshir@mac.<wbr>com</a> ;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; <a href="mailto:angel@mideastbooks.com" __doClobber__=true>angel@mideastbooks.<wbr>com</a> ; Horse 176<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:48 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; Subject: Re: [Israelites] Re: Niemela ADMITS its ALL POLITICS Re: Race is<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; IRRELEVANT -- ALL PEOPLE COME FROM NOAH<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt;<o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; Yes, lies, misrepresentations, mockery of the Scriptures, ill-will towards<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; <span class=GramE>others</span> and mockery of people who are decent, better informed than they and<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; <span class=GramE>certainly</span> far better intentioned.&nbsp;&nbsp;When I see people continuously ignore<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; <span class=GramE>the</span><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; Scriptures they insincerely claim to believe and respect, or pretend not<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; <span class=GramE>to</span><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&gt; understand it, it fills me with disgust.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>From: &quot;debunks@sbcglobal.<wbr>net&quot; <br> Sent: Jun 25, 2007 4:45 PM <br> &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;mso-cellspacing:0in;mso-yfti-tbllook:1184;mso-padding-alt: 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt' id=INCREDIMAINTABLE> <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'> <td width="100%" valign=top style='width:100.0%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt' id=INCREDITEXTREGION> <p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'> am afraid you will have to do better than this, Mr.&nbsp;Niemela.&nbsp; Nowhere have&nbsp;I&nbsp;used &quot;obscure unrelated Bible verses.&quot;&nbsp; Stop your incessant LYING and get down to business here.&nbsp; Provide <span class=GramE>your</span> PROOF that the verses I posted are &quot;OBSCURE&quot; <span class=SpellE>and/OR</span> &quot;UNRELATED.&quot;</span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>They are not.&nbsp; You, as usual, are just stuck for answers again.&nbsp; And when stuck you do the first predictable thing that comes to mind:&nbsp; You post mendacious generalities and attack the poster.&nbsp; I&nbsp;for one would not write one negative word about your <span class=SpellE>behaviour</span> here if you acted like a man of integrity and <span class=SpellE>honour</span>.&nbsp;</span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </td> </tr> </table> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <div><span id="_user_jacob1srae1ite@gmail.com"> <div id="mh_13"> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 style='mso-cellspacing:0in;mso-yfti-tbllook:1184;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 0in'> <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'> <td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#00681C'>Jacob Israel</span>&nbsp; </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#00681C'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </td> <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'> <td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'> <span id="_upro_METAPHYSICS-100@yahoogroups.com">METAPHYSICS-100</span>, <span class=SpellE><span id="_upro_spiritjacob@yahoogroups.com">spiritjacob</span></span>, <span id="_upro_ISRAEL_V_EDOM@yahoogroups.com">ISRAEL_V_EDOM</span> ...<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </td> </tr> </table> <span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;<span class=lk><span id=so>More options</span></span> </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </td> <span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;<span id="_date_Wed Jul 5 2006_10:56 PM">Jul 5 (2 days ago)</span></span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </td> </tr> </div> <div> <div id="mb_12"> <div> <div> <p><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><script> <!-- D(["mb","<div><div>This is really getting amateurish.</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>The Colonel sure called it right when he stepped out of this childish discussion weeks ago.� And here I am weeks later having to explain the difference between the House of Israel and the House of Judah, something any child who picks up the Holy Bible would have a hard time missing.\n</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<blockquote dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"margin-right:0px\">\n<div>And when Rehoboam was come to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah, with the tribe of Benjamin, a hundred and fourscore thousand chosen men, which were warriors, to fight against the house of Israel, to bring the kingdom again to Rehoboam the son of Solomon\n<font face\u003d\"Arial\" size\u003d\"2\">. </font><font face\u003d\"Arial\" color\u003d\"#008080\" size\u003d\"3\">1 Kings 12:21</font><font face\u003d\"Arial\" size\u003d\"2\"> </font></div></blockquote>\n<div>Did the House of Israel and the House of Judah EVER come back together again?</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>NO NEVER.</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>Instead, they fought with and killed each other by the hundreds of thousands, if not millions:</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<blockquote dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"margin-right:0px\">\n<div><font color\u003d\"#008080\" size\u003d\"3\">\n<p>1Ch 21:5</p></font><font size\u003d\"3\"> And Joab gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all </font><i><font color\u003d\"#808080\" size\u003d\"3\">[they of]</font></i><font size\u003d\"3\"> Israel were a thousand thousand and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah \n</font><i><font color\u003d\"#808080\" size\u003d\"3\">[was]</font></i><font size\u003d\"3\"> four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword. </font></div></blockquote>\n<dir><font color\u003d\"#008080\" size\u003d\"3\">\n<p>2Ch 28:6</p></font><font size\u003d\"3\"> For Pekah the son of Remaliah slew in Judah a hundred and twenty thousand in one day, </font><i><font color\u003d\"#808080\" size\u003d\"3\">which</font></i><font size\u003d\"3\"> </font><i><font color\u003d\"#808080\" size\u003d\"3\">\nwere</font></i><font size\u003d\"3\"> all valiant men; because they had forsaken the LORD God of their fathers. </font>",1] ); //--> </script></span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>This is really getting amateurish.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>The Colonel sure called it right when he stepped out of this childish discussion weeks ago.&nbsp; And here I am weeks later having to explain the difference between the House of Israel and the House of Judah, something any child who picks up the Holy Bible would have a hard time missing. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>And when <span class=SpellE>Rehoboam</span> was come to Jerusalem, he assembled all the house of Judah, with the tribe of Benjamin, a hundred and fourscore thousand chosen men, which were warriors, to fight against the house of Israel, to bring the kingdom again to <span class=SpellE>Rehoboam</span> the son of <span class=GramE>Solomon <span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>.</span></span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:teal'>1 Kings 12:21</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Did the House of Israel and the House of Judah EVER come back together again?<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>NO NEVER.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>Instead, they fought with and killed each other by the hundreds of thousands, if not millions:<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:teal'>1Ch 21:5<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>And <span class=SpellE>Joab</span> gave the sum of the number of the people unto David. And all </span><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; color:gray'>[they of]</span></i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'> Israel <span class=GramE>were</span> a thousand <span class=SpellE>thousand</span> and an hundred thousand men that drew sword: and Judah </span><i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:gray'>[was]</span></i><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'> four hundred threescore and ten thousand men that drew sword. <o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </div> <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'> <td style='padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'> <p><span style='color:teal'>2Ch 28:6<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p>For <span class=SpellE>Pekah</span> the son of <span class=SpellE>Remaliah</span> slew in Judah a hundred and twenty thousand in one day, <i><span style='color:gray'>which</span></i> <i><span style='color:gray'>were</span></i> all valiant men; because they had forsaken the LORD God of their fathers. <script> <!-- D(["mb","<font color\u003d\"#008080\" size\u003d\"3\">\n<p>2Ch 28:7</p></font><font size\u003d\"3\"> And Zichri, a mighty man of Ephraim, slew Maaseiah the king\'s son, and Azrikam the governor of the house, and Elkanah </font><i><font color\u003d\"#808080\" size\u003d\"3\">that</font></i><font size\u003d\"3\">\n </font><i><font color\u003d\"#808080\" size\u003d\"3\">was</font></i><font size\u003d\"3\"> next to the king. </font></dir><font color\u003d\"#008080\" size\u003d\"3\">\n<blockquote dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"margin-right:0px\">\n<p>2Ch 28:8</p></blockquote></font><font size\u003d\"3\"> And the children of Israel carried away captive of their brethren two hundred thousand, women, sons, and daughters, and took also away much spoil from them, and brought the spoil to Samaria. \n</font>\n<div>DID YOU CATCH THAT, DEBUNKS?</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL KILLED ONE HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND OF THE HOUSE OF JUDAH in ***one day***, and took 200,000 captive!!!!</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>And you say &quot;<font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"2\">There is no such entity as a House of Israel aside from the twelve tribes collectively</font>&quot;!~</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>BUNK!!</div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>John Knight<br><br>�</div></div>",1] ); //--> </script><span style='color:teal'><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='color:teal'>2Ch 28:7<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p>And <span class=SpellE>Zichri</span>, a mighty man of Ephraim, slew <span class=SpellE>Maaseiah</span> the king's son, and <span class=SpellE>Azrikam</span> the governor of the house, and <span class=SpellE>Elkanah</span> <i><span style='color:gray'>that</span></i> <i><span style='color:gray'>was</span></i> next to the king. </p> </td> </tr> </table> <span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif";color:teal'>2Ch 28:8</span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>And the children of Israel carried away captive of their brethren two hundred thousand, women, sons, and daughters, and took also away much spoil from them, and brought the spoil to Samaria. <o:p></o:p></span></p> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>DID YOU CATCH THAT, DEBUNKS?<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL KILLED ONE HUNDRED TWENTY THOUSAND OF THE HOUSE OF JUDAH in ***one day***, and took 200,000 captive!!!!<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>And you say &quot;</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif"'>There is no such entity as a House of Israel aside from the twelve tribes collectively</span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&quot;<span class=GramE>!~</span><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>BUNK!!<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>John Knight<br> <br> &nbsp;<script> <!-- D(["mb","<div><div class\u003dea><span id\u003de_10c426933718a4fb_1>- Show quoted text -</span></div><span class\u003de id\u003dq_10c426933718a4fb_1>\n<div><span class\u003d\"gmail_quote\">On 7/5/06, <b class\u003d\"gmail_sendername\">Debunks</b> &lt;<a href\u003d\"mailto:debunks@sbcglobal.net\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">debunks@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>\n<blockquote class\u003d\"gmail_quote\" style\u003d\"padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid\">\n<div>\n<div style\u003d\"font-size:12pt;margin:5px 10px 10px;font-family:Arial\" bgcolor\u003d\"#ffffff\">\n<table cellspacing\u003d\"0\" cellpadding\u003d\"2\" width\u003d\"100%\" border\u003d\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style\u003d\"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial\" width\u003d\"100%\">\n<div><font size\u003d\"3\"><font size\u003d\"3\"></font><font face\u003d\"Georgia\">�<font size\u003d\"2\">You just don\'t get it, do you?� The HOUSE OF ISRAEL comprises the 12 tribes sired by the sons of Jacob/Israel.� These twelve tribes collectively comprise ISRAEL.� Judah is one of those houses and is� one-twelfth part of ISRAEL.� End of story.� There is no such entity as a House of Israel aside from the twelve tribes collectively.� Thus, there is a house of Benjamin, House of Dan, House of Judah, House of Ruben, etc� Jacob had no son named Israel, thus Israel applies to all the 12 houses collectively.� You keep trying to dissociate Judah from Israel collectively but it cannot be done.� Each individual part comprises the whole.\n</font></font></font></div>\n<div></div>\n<div><span>\n<div><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"></font>�</font></div>\n<div><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"></font>�</font></div>\n<div><i>-------Original Message-------</i></div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>From:</b></i> <a href\u003d\"mailto:jacob1srae1ite@gmail.com\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">Jacob Israel</a></div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>Date:</b></i> 7/5/2006 10:23:36 AM</div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>To:</b></i> <a href\u003d\"mailto:spiritjacob@yahoogroups.com\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">spiritjacob@yahoogroups.com",1] ); //--> </script><script> <!-- D(["mb","<div><div class\u003dea><span id\u003de_10c426933718a4fb_1>- Show quoted text -</span></div><span class\u003de id\u003dq_10c426933718a4fb_1>\n<div><span class\u003d\"gmail_quote\">On 7/5/06, <b class\u003d\"gmail_sendername\">Debunks</b> &lt;<a href\u003d\"mailto:debunks@sbcglobal.net\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">debunks@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>\n<blockquote class\u003d\"gmail_quote\" style\u003d\"padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid\">\n<div>\n<div style\u003d\"font-size:12pt;margin:5px 10px 10px;font-family:Arial\" bgcolor\u003d\"#ffffff\">\n<table cellspacing\u003d\"0\" cellpadding\u003d\"2\" width\u003d\"100%\" border\u003d\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style\u003d\"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial\" width\u003d\"100%\">\n<div><font size\u003d\"3\"><font size\u003d\"3\"></font><font face\u003d\"Georgia\">�<font size\u003d\"2\">You just don\'t get it, do you?� The HOUSE OF ISRAEL comprises the 12 tribes sired by the sons of Jacob/Israel.� These twelve tribes collectively comprise ISRAEL.� Judah is one of those houses and is� one-twelfth part of ISRAEL.� End of story.� There is no such entity as a House of Israel aside from the twelve tribes collectively.� Thus, there is a house of Benjamin, House of Dan, House of Judah, House of Ruben, etc� Jacob had no son named Israel, thus Israel applies to all the 12 houses collectively.� You keep trying to dissociate Judah from Israel collectively but it cannot be done.� Each individual part comprises the whole.\n</font></font></font></div>\n<div></div>\n<div><span>\n<div><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"></font>�</font></div>\n<div><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"></font>�</font></div>\n<div><i>-------Original Message-------</i></div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>From:</b></i> <a href\u003d\"mailto:jacob1srae1ite@gmail.com\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">Jacob Israel</a></div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>Date:</b></i> 7/5/2006 10:23:36 AM</div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>To:</b></i> <a href\u003d\"mailto:spiritjacob@yahoogroups.com\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">spiritjacob@yahoogroups.com",1] ); //--> </script><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <div> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'><script> <!-- D(["mb","<div><div class\u003dea><span id\u003de_10c426933718a4fb_1>- Show quoted text -</span></div><span class\u003de id\u003dq_10c426933718a4fb_1>\n<div><span class\u003d\"gmail_quote\">On 7/5/06, <b class\u003d\"gmail_sendername\">Debunks</b> &lt;<a href\u003d\"mailto:debunks@sbcglobal.net\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">debunks@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>\n<blockquote class\u003d\"gmail_quote\" style\u003d\"padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:#ccc 1px solid\">\n<div>\n<div style\u003d\"font-size:12pt;margin:5px 10px 10px;font-family:Arial\" bgcolor\u003d\"#ffffff\">\n<table cellspacing\u003d\"0\" cellpadding\u003d\"2\" width\u003d\"100%\" border\u003d\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td style\u003d\"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial\" width\u003d\"100%\">\n<div><font size\u003d\"3\"><font size\u003d\"3\"></font><font face\u003d\"Georgia\">�<font size\u003d\"2\">You just don\'t get it, do you?� The HOUSE OF ISRAEL comprises the 12 tribes sired by the sons of Jacob/Israel.� These twelve tribes collectively comprise ISRAEL.� Judah is one of those houses and is� one-twelfth part of ISRAEL.� End of story.� There is no such entity as a House of Israel aside from the twelve tribes collectively.� Thus, there is a house of Benjamin, House of Dan, House of Judah, House of Ruben, etc� Jacob had no son named Israel, thus Israel applies to all the 12 houses collectively.� You keep trying to dissociate Judah from Israel collectively but it cannot be done.� Each individual part comprises the whole.\n</font></font></font></div>\n<div></div>\n<div><span>\n<div><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"></font>�</font></div>\n<div><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"><font face\u003d\"Georgia\" size\u003d\"3\"></font>�</font></div>\n<div><i>-------Original Message-------</i></div>\n<div>�</div>\n<div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>From:</b></i> <a href\u003d\"mailto:jacob1srae1ite@gmail.com\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">Jacob Israel</a></div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>Date:</b></i> 7/5/2006 10:23:36 AM</div>\n<div dir\u003d\"ltr\" style\u003d\"font-size:11pt\"><i><b>To:</b></i> <a href\u003d\"mailto:spiritjacob@yahoogroups.com\" target\u003d\"_blank\" onclick\u003d\"return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)\">spiritjacob@yahoogroups.com",1] ); //--> </script><span id="e_10c426933718a4fb_1">- Hide quoted text -</span><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <span id="q_10c426933718a4fb_1"> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'>On 7/5/06, <b>Debunks</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:debunks@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">debunks@sbcglobal.net</a>&gt; wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p> <div> <div style='margin-left:7.5pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-right:7.5pt;margin-bottom: 7.5pt' bgcolor="#ffffff"> <table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%;mso-cellspacing:0in;mso-yfti-tbllook:1184;mso-padding-alt: 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'> <tr style='mso-yfti-irow:0;mso-yfti-firstrow:yes;mso-yfti-lastrow:yes'> <td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;padding:1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt 1.5pt'> <div> <p><span style='font-family:"Georgia","serif";mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'>&nbsp;You just don't get it, do you?&nbsp; The HOUSE OF ISRAEL comprises the 12 tribes sired by the sons of Jacob/Israel.&nbsp; These twelve tribes collectively comprise ISRAEL.&nbsp; Judah is one of those houses and is<span class=GramE>&nbsp; one</span>-twelfth part of ISRAEL.&nbsp; End of story.&nbsp; There is no such entity as a House of Israel aside from the twelve tribes collectively.&nbsp; Thus, there is a house of Benjamin, House of Dan, House of Judah, House of Ruben, etc<span class=GramE>&nbsp; Jacob</span> had no son named Israel, thus Israel applies to all the 12 houses collectively.&nbsp; You keep trying to dissociate Judah from Israel collectively but it cannot be done.&nbsp; Each individual part comprises the whole. </span><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; mso-bidi-font-family:Arial'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> </td> </tr> </table> </div> </div> </div> <p><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"'></span>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Trebuchet MS","sans-serif"; mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'>&nbsp; </span><span style='mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></p> </body> </html>