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Welcome Msg: A mamzer shall not enter into a meeting of the Lord's holy people, even to the tenth generation shall he not enter into a meeting of the Lord's holy people, Deuteronomy 23:2 Khe1tic: okay that workedKhe1tic: I dont have a mic yetKhe1tic: yesKhe1tic: but I'm playing a game of literatiKhe1tic: lololKhe1tic: sorryKhe1tic: yes its a painKhe1tic: not much hereKhe1tic: Anne hereMalkyEL777: I am NancyKhe1tic: Inice to meet you nancyMalkyEL777: nice to meet you anneKhe1tic: Russia?Paltalk: ===================================Tell the world what you think about PalTalk! Click HERE to visit epinions.comand rate our product! ========================================== Khe1tic: just a stab in the darkKhe1tic: lolKhe1tic: where John?Khe1tic: probablyKhe1tic: yes come up and say hello anyway nancyKhe1tic: which one John?mamzerhammer: hey, honkyKhe1tic: hi honkygitchagumme: sethy :-))mamzerhammer: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1072245986-5828.html#34 <http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1072245986-5828.html>HonkyCracker: HonkyCracker: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1072245986-5828.htmlHonkyCracker: you know mamzer
HonkyCracker: all you need is any greek MS
MalkyEL777: I have it front of me anyway HonkyCracker: use textus receptus, or even wescott & hort
MalkyEL777: the greek MalkyEL777: hi seth HonkyCracker: good
HonkyCracker: Luke 23:34
HonkyCracker: if it aint correct i jus wanna know
MalkyEL777: not a friend, sorry HonkyCracker: what makes it
HonkyCracker: that the "no"
HonkyCracker: has to be associated with the "know"
Va1erie: hi john ::waves:: MalkyEL777: I think that some liberty is being taken with the text HonkyCracker: yea so do i
HonkyCracker: considering it reads (in order)
HonkyCracker: "forgive them not because"
HonkyCracker: so why should "Not" be associated with "know"
HonkyCracker: and not "forgive"
mamzerhammer: Luk 23:34 <http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Luk&chapter=23&verse=34&version=kjv> Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. MalkyEL777: obviously, those with a working knowledge of the greek have translated it has Father forgive them, so I would believe that is correct HonkyCracker: so basically malky
HonkyCracker: you dont know greek?
HonkyCracker: and your relying on other past translators
MalkyEL777: no I do not HonkyCracker: ok
MalkyEL777: yes HonkyCracker: the past translators were jews
HonkyCracker: so why would they properly translate the part
HonkyCracker: where jesus condemns his murderers (jews)
HonkyCracker: yes i can give you the decclensions
HonkyCracker: you have to learn a very MINIMUM amount of understanding
MalkyEL777: the translation I have was not done by a Jew HonkyCracker: of the decclensions
HonkyCracker: malky
HonkyCracker: the fact is
HonkyCracker: modern translations
HonkyCracker: have gone in the SAME steps
HonkyCracker: as the older ones
HonkyCracker: its too balsy
HonkyCracker: to translate THAT verse properly
HonkyCracker: the fact is in greek
Va1erie: gijonesies? Va1erie: lol HonkyCracker: you
MalkyEL777: who is the one translating it differently HonkyCracker: IN GREEK
MalkyEL777: is it one of you guys? HonkyCracker: you can switch the words around YES
HonkyCracker: but............
HonkyCracker: in this verse
HonkyCracker: theres no reason
HonkyCracker: why i should
HonkyCracker: take not out
HonkyCracker: and put it after "know"
HonkyCracker: its "forgive not"
HonkyCracker: not......... "know not"
MalkyEL777: are you the greek linguist, honky? HonkyCracker: i can read it
HonkyCracker: you have the textu there.
HonkyCracker: explain to me why "not"
MalkyEL777: do you have a degree in greek? HonkyCracker: should be moved after "them" to "know"
HonkyCracker: no i dont have a degree
HonkyCracker: ive learned my own
MalkyEL777: then why do you think you know more than someone who does? MalkyEL777: you've learned it on your own? HonkyCracker: well malky im not about to defend myself
HonkyCracker: because you cant judge me
HonkyCracker: thats for sure heh
HonkyCracker: the koine greek reads
MalkyEL777: just as you are judging others degrees HonkyCracker: "father.........forgive ........ them.......... not ........because........... they-know.........what they-do
Va1erie: malky.....honky is extremely educated HonkyCracker: and there is no reason
Va1erie: all we can say is Va1erie: check it out for yourself HonkyCracker: why "not" should be associated with "they-know"
Va1erie: look into what he is say Va1erie: saying Va1erie: and you will see HonkyCracker: the FACT is
HonkyCracker: that modern translations
HonkyCracker: would NEVER
HonkyCracker: properly translate this
HonkyCracker: because it would condemn their work from selling
HonkyCracker: the jews would see to that
HonkyCracker: hehe
HonkyCracker: i was reading this Interlinear bible
HonkyCracker: and you know what it said? hehe
Khe1tic: Eric Zundel MalkyEL777: for one thing it reverses what Jesus taught HonkyCracker: "Father, forgive them; not, for they know what they do."
HonkyCracker: lol...........
Khe1tic: ernst...oops HonkyCracker: can you believe that
HonkyCracker: my interlinear says
HonkyCracker: "Father, forgive them; not, for they know what they do."
gitchagumme: THE DELUSIONAL aspect in also RIGHT IN OUR FATHERS WORD....................THIS DAY gitchagumme: they've perverted what sets on the counter top, saying HOLY BIBLE HonkyCracker: this is a Bible Teaching room
Khe1tic: not at all Khe1tic: boot? gitchagumme: We follow Only Fathers Word gitchagumme: Nope gitchagumme: Not by my standards gitchagumme: We dont sugar coat Fathers Word FOR ANYBODY Va1erie: SWORD you have a distinct attitude in your voice Va1erie: get outta here Khe1tic: are you a sword? Khe1tic: are you dangerous? gitchagumme: I feel My Spirit stating to me that ALL WHICH COME OUT OF THE LIES OF THE ZIONIST RUN, MAIN STREAM SO-CALLED CHRISTIAN CHURCHES THIS DAY, can then have a chace to be Tested HonkyCracker: "Honkey" is a lowly term
HonkyCracker: its not "supremist"
HonkyCracker: its lowly
gitchagumme: And then become a part of fathers Eternity gitchagumme: HE IS THE JUDGE Va1erie: khe2tic red dot him HonkyCracker: are the african american sections
HonkyCracker: black supremists?
gitchagumme: Read what I put on the screen gitchagumme: I wont Red-dot you til FATHER tells me to Red-Dot You gitchagumme: then when Father and my Darling decide to, Ones will be bounced Khe1tic: lol Khe1tic: okay I'm here now HonkyCracker: yes
HonkyCracker: the decclensions
HonkyCracker: theres no reason why
HonkyCracker: "not"
HonkyCracker: NEEDS to be associated
HonkyCracker: with "know"
HonkyCracker: so we SHOULD
HonkyCracker: take the word-order Paltalk: =================================== Get cool PalTalk gear! ++NOW AVAILABLE++ Get hats, T-shirts, mugs, mouse pads and MORE! Click HERE to get cool stuff NOW! ========================================== HonkyCracker: and yes,
HonkyCracker: there are other places
HonkyCracker: ill have to work on it
HonkyCracker: give you examples
Khe1tic: Hey GG Gospel-Guerilla: hello Gospel-Guerilla: well ty Gospel-Guerilla: amen Khe1tic: have a good chrissy GG ? Gospel-Guerilla: good yup..boxing day here gitchagumme: Father brought us everything we wanted Khe1tic: they dont call it that here GG Gospel-Guerilla: hey gitct gitchagumme: Still feeling the calm, and the animals in the woods seem to be having a blast Gospel-Guerilla: yup gitchagumme: Hey there G.G., is me, and Kheltic is Anne Gospel-Guerilla: yep gitchagumme: yes Gospel-Guerilla: ok mamzerhammer: Luk 23:34 <http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Luk&chapter=23&verse=34&version=kjv> Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. gitchagumme: Hello Cath HonkyCracker: http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Luk&chapter=23&verse=34&version=kjv Gospel-Guerilla: forgive them not HonkyCracker: thats the actual greek order
Gospel-Guerilla: I am onto that HonkyCracker: forgive them not because.........
gitchagumme: yes right, and these are of those WHO WILL BE OF THE ONES, Which are of the dead which live not til the Thousand Years Are Finished Gospel-Guerilla: contradiction of terms HonkyCracker: theres nothing to crack
HonkyCracker: thats the order
USA-is-ISRAEL: good Khe1tic: hi USA HonkyCracker: of the greek words
mamzerhammer: Luk 23:34 <http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=Luk&chapter=23&verse=34&version=kjv> Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. USA-is-ISRAEL: ok HonkyCracker: lol. yes
HonkyCracker: all you have to do
HonkyCracker: is click on the C
HonkyCracker: the lil C icon
HonkyCracker: thats concordance
HonkyCracker: go to Luke 23:34
HonkyCracker: and click on the lil C
HonkyCracker: and that takes you to the MSS
HonkyCracker: the 2 listed right now
HonkyCracker: are Textus Receptus, and the newer Wescott & Hort
USA-is-ISRAEL: lol I am all eyes lol HonkyCracker: not the Tables
HonkyCracker: follow the SCROLLS
Khe1tic: FifthRebbi has been bounced from the group mamzerhammer: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/popup/1072400517-1638.html#33 HonkyCracker: its just a basic
HonkyCracker: outline
HonkyCracker: with 2 Greek MSS
HonkyCracker: i have 16 dif greek ones
mamzerhammer: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1072400679-8321.html#34 HonkyCracker: Luke 23:34
HonkyCracker: click on the concordance information
HonkyCracker: look at the Textus Receptus, or the Wescott & Hort (at the bottom)
HonkyCracker: forgive - them - not - because
HonkyCracker: thats the word order
HonkyCracker: and i find no reason
HonkyCracker: why "Not" has to be moved
USA-is-ISRAEL: interesting HonkyCracker: yes
HonkyCracker: ask them
HonkyCracker: ask them WHY
HonkyCracker: all the translators
HonkyCracker: assciate "not" with "they-know"
USA-is-ISRAEL: very huge HonkyCracker: you wanna know something funny John??
MalkyEL777: which is what Jesus taught HonkyCracker: i was lookin in my interlineare english-greek
HonkyCracker: and it said
HonkyCracker: "Father, forgive them; not, for they know what they do."
HonkyCracker: hehehe
MalkyEL777: you cannot dismiss His teaching HonkyCracker: you see
HonkyCracker: they add the semicolon
HonkyCracker: in an attempt to make "Forgive them not"
HonkyCracker: sound nicer
HonkyCracker: lol.
RockSolid1963: I don't know yet Va1erie: malky if you want to go on believing what you've been taught...and just accept it w/out looking into it....that's your prerogative USA-is-ISRAEL: malky...... what teachings are you refering to? Va1erie: but you have been forewarned Va1erie: and will be held accountable USA-is-ISRAEL: hello val Va1erie: if you happen to be wrong HonkyCracker: certain greek MSS actually dont have that portion in there
HonkyCracker: that means
HonkyCracker: either it was added
HonkyCracker: or the jews
HonkyCracker: took it oout
HonkyCracker: because it was so damning
MalkyEL777: added - now you say it was added? MalkyEL777: so exactly what parts of the Bible are valid, inspired, infallible? HonkyCracker: the jews would have done it
HonkyCracker: because its so damning.
USA-is-ISRAEL: there are missing books too USA-is-ISRAEL: or should I say ...lost MalkyEL777: God promised to perserve His Word - you are saying He failed HonkyCracker: lol malky
HonkyCracker: give it up
HonkyCracker: maybe our work right now
HonkyCracker: is preserving it
HonkyCracker: jesus' last words on the stake
HonkyCracker: he quoted
HonkyCracker: all of ps 22
MalkyEL777: then you are saying we do not have God's Word MalkyEL777: you are saying then, that satan has more control than God to preserve His Word Paltalk: =================================== Click banners to visit our sponsors. ========================================== gitchagumme: Fathers Word is Not perverted for Those Who Love Him gitchagumme: And then grow in His Faith and understanding of the Holy Spirit Va1erie: malky Va1erie: God's word is found in the MSS Va1erie: there are many translations gitchagumme: The King James Original Bible comes with a Warning letter at the face of it Va1erie: even the translators Va1erie: warned us Va1erie: that they may Va1erie: have made mistakes gitchagumme: It was Put there by the Translators themselves Va1erie: and not to take what they say for granted HonkyCracker: yes
HonkyCracker: the preface
gitchagumme: If you'd like a copy of this letter we can send you one HonkyCracker: of course
HonkyCracker: i have it in original preface
gitchagumme: All of the laws which have been written Since 1970 IS A MUST READ HonkyCracker: and translated to modbern english
gitchagumme: As it proves that they are stripping us from every right that we have this day gitchagumme: Everything is lining up perfectly as the Father Has In His Will Khe1tic: http://www.bibleword.org/kjvlet.html ephraim13: ok Gospel-Guerilla: I got disconnected learner 2-1-1: Peace be to you John . mamzerhammer: Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Gospel-Guerilla: merry boxing day :} gitchagumme: All HIS CHILDREN, and His little things are Still having a very Beautiful Day gitchagumme: Just as it is written HonkyCracker: this is not
HonkyCracker: judeo-british israelism
HonkyCracker: lol.
HonkyCracker: judeo-british israelism is a curse
Gospel-Guerilla: forgive them not, for they know what they do mamzerhammer: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1072400679-8321.html#34 Gospel-Guerilla: I woke up to that a while ago mamz HonkyCracker: lol.
HonkyCracker: luke 23:34
Va1erie: 23 mamzerhammer: 23:34 mamzerhammer: sorry mamzerhammer: think I said 33 Deborah9194: hello learner HonkyCracker: father, forgive them not; for they know what they do.
HonkyCracker: them = jews
Gospel-Guerilla: it came to me HonkyCracker: the political house of judah
HonkyCracker: was destroyed
HonkyCracker: its revived in europe
HonkyCracker: 750 years before christ
HonkyCracker: the jews
HonkyCracker: and their race
gitchagumme: that'll be the phone Reg HonkyCracker: was defiled beyond compare
HonkyCracker: and condemned to hell
HonkyCracker: 2000 years ago
Gospel-Guerilla: it was Gospel-Guerilla: for my son gitchagumme: hehehe Gospel-Guerilla: after all Jesus refers to them as vipers..why forgive them....biblical logic! HonkyCracker: Luke 23:34
HonkyCracker: in the greek mss
Gospel-Guerilla: I have tc HonkyCracker: Textus Receptus
HonkyCracker: and BELOW the Wescott & Hort
HonkyCracker: thats exactly how it reads
HonkyCracker: Father, forgive them not; for they-know what they-do
mamzerhammer: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/popup/1072401995-9824.html#33 Va1erie: they knew EXACTLY what they were doing Gospel-Guerilla: I qhestioned the church Va1erie: because Jesus knew who they were ephraim13: have to run Va1erie: and threatened their merchandizing ephraim13: GOD BLESS Va1erie: and therefore they sought to kill him Gospel-Guerilla: I questioned God Gospel-Guerilla: and i was told not to question God by church ppl..so I wanted to know why I should not question him Gospel-Guerilla: I began to look under rocks gitchagumme: Luke 23:34, totally contradicts his earlier statement made to the same people......Mat 23:33 [Ye] serpents, [ye] generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? gitchagumme: hope a redback doesn't bite you on the nose gitchagumme: hehehe gitchagumme: spider HonkyCracker: it also contradicts
HonkyCracker: Genesis 3:15
Gospel-Guerilla: redback gitchagumme: spider Gospel-Guerilla: redback on the toilet seat Gospel-Guerilla: a black spider with a red mark on their back Gospel-Guerilla: the female Gospel-Guerilla: member of the black widdow family Va1erie: <---drives an MR2 spider hehee mamzerhammer: black widow gitchagumme: when I was there last night ...I didn't see him in the dark , but boy! I felt his bite....lol mamzerhammer: heh, val Va1erie: they have a red spot on their belly Gospel-Guerilla: ho ho ho val gitchagumme: Luk 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Va1erie: lol gitchagumme: I think not hammer gitchagumme: they knew EXACTLY what they were doing mamzerhammer: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tmp_dir/c/1072402350-1846.html#34 HonkyCracker: they KNOW what they are doing
HonkyCracker: thats what the greek says
HonkyCracker: for they-know what they-do |
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