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Frank wrote:

"If the "christian" rabbis can persuade you to look for future kingdom, you have not been reborn into the present true kingdom which flesh and blood cannot enter. Not only that, they cause you to deny the very existence of God's kingdom now and attempt to make Christ's mission a failure and make all the prophets liars."

You need to learn the difference between spirit, and flesh and blood.

Who is spirit? THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL.

Who is flesh? The descendants of Ishmael, or the Arabs, and allegorically every non-Israelite.

How do we know this. PAUL of all people, the same one who judeochristians like to claim THREW OUT GOD'S EVERLASTING COVENANT, told us in Galatians 4 precisely why flesh [read: Ishmaelites] are NOT of that covenant:

Gal 4:29 But as then he that was begotten after the flesh persecuted him that was begotten after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Who persecuted who? Who is the "flesh" who persecuted the "spirit".

Ishmaelites persecuted Israelites!@

John Knight

<http://fathersmanifesto.net/allegory.htm>

Follow this carefully and you'll understand that:

	Flesh = Ishmaelites, or Arabs
	Spirit = Israelites, or descendants of Jacob

Gal 4:22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

The bondmaid is Hagar, Sarah's Egyptian slave, her son is Ishmael whose descendants are the Arabs. The freewoman is Sarah, her son was Isaac, and the everlasting covenant God made with Abraham was through all the descendants of Isaac's son Jacob.

Gal 4:23 But he who was of the bondwoman was begotten after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Ishmael's descendants the Arabs were "born after the flesh" but Jacob's descendants the Israelites were "by promise".

Gal 4:24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which engendereth to bondage, which is Hagar.

Gal 4:25 For this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

The everlasting covenant God made with Abraham through Jacob preceded the covenant at Mount Sinai. Paul is equating the everlasting covenant to Jerusalem [read: Israelites] and the covenant at Mount Sinai to Arabs.

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

"Us all" must be a reference only to genetic descendants of Jacob, and in this instance only to the "house of Israel" which is the twelve northern tribes.

Gal 4:27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not; for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath a husband.

There were more descendants of Ishmael whose mother Hagar was "desolate" than there were of Jacob whose grandmother Sarah "hath a husband", Abraham.

Gal 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

"The children of promise" is the phrase used to refer to genetic descendants of Isaac (and specifically to genetic descendants of Isaac through Jacob, as God hated Esau and excluded his descendants the Edomites from the covenant).

Gal 4:29 But as then he that was begotten after the flesh persecuted him that was begotten after the Spirit, even so it is now.

The Arabs who were "begotten after the flesh" persecuted the Israelites [read: "the children of promise" who are now equated to "begotten after the Spirit"].

Gal 4:30 Nevertheless what saith the Scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

While God blessed Hagar and promised Abraham that her that her son Ishmael would "twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation", her descendants were not heirs to the evelasting covenant God made with Abraham through Jacob.

Gal 4:31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

This is proof that Paul is addressing only Israelites here, not Arabs who were "born after the flesh", nor jews who were descendants of Esau who God hated, nor mamzers who cannot ever enter the congregation of the LORD, nor nokriy who God commanded the Israelites to "save alive nothing that breatheth". His point is that, just because Arabs and Edomites are descendants of Abraham by "flesh" [through Ishmael or Esau] doesn't mean they're descendants "by promise" or "spirit". If you're not a descendant of Abraham through Jacob [read: an Israelite], then you're not "by promise", "children of promise", nor "born after the spirit".

FRANKKJV@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 6/15/2006 2:30:45 PM Atlantic Daylight Time, kennlock@sbcglobal.net writes:

The Kingdom of God on Earth is the propaganda of this subversive "Christianity".

That Yashua, Jesus, the Christ, the Messiah, must have been part of what you call this subversive "Christianity", according to you, and you won't recognize Him when He comes.

To believe that Jesus is coming is to deny His presence. You, my friend, parrot the leaven of the Pharisees, which Jesus said, "beware of".

He is the very one that taught us to pray "Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done ON

EARTH, as it is in Heaven."

What makes you think Jesus lied? His kingdom did come. The verse does not say "will come"


I would say He taught, and YET teaches an earthly kingdom.

An earthly kingdom is what Satan offerred Him, and he told the devil to get lost. The Pharisees also offerred him an earthly kingdom, He ran away and hid Himself. You think Jesus was just loose with words or just fooln around? Or maybe His timing was off?


Be careful of your

false hoods you teach. You teach a floaty kingdom, just as you teach floaty souls and spirits too.

What are you talking about?

Death is death until resurrection. Now why would He teach us to pray thy kingdom

come, thy will be done on Earth, if there is to be no earthly kingdom???

You say, "Now why would He teach us to pray". Jesus never said anything to you, unless you are approx. 2000 yrs. old and you and Euell Gibbons share the same health food recipees.



It sounds purely hypocritical to me on Jesus part, if you are right and he is wrong, or

He was sadly deluded, and we should look for another messiah, sir Frank?

Maybe you need to go back and re read your KJV more and read your 16th and 17th theologians less.

According to the British Encyclopaedia the Anglo-Saxon or British Israel theory is the contention that the English Speaking people are the descendents of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, deported by Sarjon of Assyria on the fall of Samaria in 721 B.C.
The theory, it is claimed, is still held by over two million peoples. It materially assisted the resettlement of the Jews in England in the 17th century Richard Brothers (1757-1824) the Nephew of the Almighty may be regarded as its first modern apostle. Bibliography: For influence on re­settlement see Aher Hyamson-Jewish Quarterly Review page 640 seq July 1903. General full accounts and bibliographies S. V. Anglo-Israelism in Jewish Encyclopaedia and in Hastings E.R.E.
It is a religious cult, attempting to prove through the Old Testament that the British are the true Israel and that they, with the people of the United States(Mannessah), are ordained of God to rule the world. In other words Britain (Ephraim) claims the King (now Queen Elizabeth) is the direct descendent from Adam through Solomon and David and that the Throne of Britain is the Throne of Christ which Britain holds until Christ shall come to establish His Kingdom of God on Earth.
This is the same propaganda as was used at the time of Napoleon, one could take the book, Mayer���s Prophecies��� London 1806, substitute the words Hitler and Germany for Napoleon and France and have used the book during World War II, the propaganda is identical.

Satan's ministers in the Rabbinic churches today shout that they believe that Jesus is the Christ but they preach another gospel and therefore another kingdom. A physical flesh and blood Pharisee kingdom was NEVER preached by one single apostle. No wonder Christ said to the Pharisees "Ye neither go in the kingdom nor suffer them to go in." If the "christian" rabbis can persuade you to look for future kingdom, you have not been reborn into the present true kingdom which flesh and blood cannot enter. Not only that, they cause you to deny the very existence of God's kingdom now and attempt to make Christ's mission a failure and make all the prophets liars.