Previously in the blog-o-sphere...
Sem
questionedSIW's
article on Shaytlach. in the comments, SIW
responded. Sem responded to SIW & then went on to
suggest a difference b/w Hockers & Journalists. SIW responded. Sem responded to
SIW. Doubletongued asked SIW what Hocking
was. SIW defined. AJH/Butler
criticized. Zalman
defined. Sem
criticized.
I tried to find a copy of Frumspeak,
but could not find it. So here is my attempt to hock on hock.
Hocking has two different, though related, meanings in YU vs. Brooklyn/Yeshivish circles.
Hocker originated in Yeshivish/Brooklyn circles meaning a self-important individual,
(related to a tutzach or a macher).
In such a hierarchical culture, people need to feel important by doing things like joining
hatzalah, being well connected, wearing designer
clothes, having the latest electronic gear (phone, beepers, etc.), etc. and being in the
know. It is also importtant that any non-Torah dicussion would be considered bittul
Torah (e.g. blabbering or hocking).
The word was reclaimed
by YU (presumably via its more Yeshivish/KBY element), but like all Yeshivish
mannerisms picked up by YU, they tend to be somewhat modifed. It use included both its
definition as non-Talmud Torah discussion (often inside information) and Hockers as the
self-important individuals. In YU, "Hock" included reid (lit. language)
(i.e. lowdown). And as YU is not limited to the Bais Medrash Hock included not only the
lowdown about politics, gossip, etc., but also academic reid, political reid,
learning, etc. Hockers, in this context are insiders who know this information as
mentioned by SIW. But outside of YU & those who graduated from there, it still
maintains a more macher or tutzach connotation.
It's a stab at a definition (and admittedly, not a great one).




















