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Ketubah Nasi: Bearing False Witness Regarding "Strangers"
The following discussion took place in the CHRISTIAN section of Paltalk which is dominated by hate-filled, paranoid, extremist, ugly, nasty, racist jews like Ketubah Nasi. On Friday, June 25, 2005, at 2:00 pm, this nasty jew bore false witness by accusing those in his forum who had raised the issue of "ger" versus "nikro" of being:
This ugly, nasty jew bore false witness like this before an audience of 50 witnesses, an act for which he deserves to be exiled from this putative Christian nation and ordered never to return. To set the record straight:
Do nasty jews like Ketubah actually believe what they say? Most Christians would think that anyone who speaks like this would actually believe what they say, because Christians are raised from birth to not lie. But jews are raised exactly the opposite--they are raised to LIE, just as Jesus warned us. So it's probable that this nasty jew is LYING and knows that his allegations are FALSE--and thus knowingly and willingly bore false witness. May 22, 2005
purewhiteisraelite: what's your take about this forum being in the Christian section? Ketubah_Nasi: the beit Yacov ? purewhiteisraelite: yes Ketubah_Nasi: well, seeing that christianity has the lost sheep of the huose of Israel hidden within it, the section seems appropriate, to me purewhiteisraelite: ? purewhiteisraelite: explain? Ketubah_Nasi: christianity holds the lost house of israel, judaism holds the house of judah purewhiteisraelite: most Israelites of the House of Judah are Christians purewhiteisraelite: and all Israelites of the House of Israel are Christians Ketubah_Nasi: all jews are israelites, but not all israelite are Jews purewhiteisraelite: no jew is an Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: yes, they are still part of the commonwealth of Israel purewhiteisraelite: if a "jew" was an Israelite, he wouldn't follow the Talmud, he'd follow the Torah Ketubah_Nasi: neiother does christioanity follow the torah, yet they are still the lost sheep./ they both have blindness purewhiteisraelite: Christians are the only who follow the Torah, jews follow the Talmud, which is exactly the opposite Ketubah_Nasi: no, christians do not as a whole follow the Torah Ketubah_Nasi: they do not wear Tzit Tzit, or keep clean meat laws, or do the feasts purewhiteisraelite: that's not Torah purewhiteisraelite: that's Talmud Ketubah_Nasi: yes, it is Ketubah_Nasi: Numbers 15:38 - Tzit Tzit Ketubah_Nasi: Clean meat laws - Exodus Ketubah_Nasi: all of that is in the torah purewhiteisraelite: do you know the difference between the Torah and the Talmud? Ketubah_Nasi: yes, The Torah is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy Ketubah_Nasi: Talmud is a very large compendium of volumnes of rabbinical commentary purewhiteisraelite: the Talmud completely contradicts the Torah purewhiteisraelite: in every aspect Ketubah_Nasi: Not always, but in some places it does. purewhiteisraelite: you can't contradict God's Law and claim to be an Israelite purewhiteisraelite: Israelites do not do that Ketubah_Nasi: Christianity contradicts God's laws all the time, but the fact that they are blinded Israel is still valid. Ketubah_Nasi: when they recieve their IDENTITY, then they start moving back toeards torah Ketubah_Nasi: and the same for Jews. Ketubah_Nasi: when Jews recieve the IDENTITY of the messiah purewhiteisraelite: nobody who follows the Talmud can ever start moving to God's Law purewhiteisraelite: they are lost purewhiteisraelite: forever Ketubah_Nasi: Then so are Christians lost then. Ketubah_Nasi: because Churchianity rejects the Torah in many respects purewhiteisraelite: not true Ketubah_Nasi: How many Christians do you know keeping the clean meat laws ? Ketubah_Nasi: or keeping the Feasts ? Ketubah_Nasi: hm ? Ketubah_Nasi: or Keeping Yah's marriage laws ? Ketubah_Nasi: or many other aspects of Torah purewhiteisraelite: do you know what a mamzer is? Ketubah_Nasi: a bastard, yes purewhiteisraelite: what is a bastard? Ketubah_Nasi: a child with no Father to speak for him purewhiteisraelite: no Ketubah_Nasi: thats how Torah defines it purewhiteisraelite: that Torah tells us exactly what a mamzer is, but those who follow the Talmud do not purewhiteisraelite: a mamzer is the offspring of an Israelite who marries a non-Israelite purewhiteisraelite: when it was translated as "bastard", the definition WAS a mongreo purewhiteisraelite: mongrel Ketubah_Nasi: I understand that you reject the House of Judah, as being the Jews, but the arayan and anglo-israelist standpoint is hypocritical due to their own negiligence to keep the Torah purewhiteisraelite: but God's Law doesn tchange just because an English definition changed purewhiteisraelite: Jesus said it best--jews reject the command of God and follow man's law Ketubah_Nasi: as for bastard, the lost house of Israel , scattered to the four winds, are now comprised of men from every colour, tribe, and language. Ketubah_Nasi: so do Christians re: rejects the command of God, for tradition purewhiteisraelite: are you a jew? Ketubah_Nasi: I am an Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: your hatred of judah is your error purewhite. Ketubah_Nasi: Yah will correct it in time purewhiteisraelite: your false accusation is your downfall purewhiteisraelite: I don't hate Judah--I hate the Talmud Ketubah_Nasi: Sop, you love your brother Judah? hmm? Ketubah_Nasi: kippah, tzit tzit 's and all ? purewhiteisraelite: and Judah is not the Talmud Ketubah_Nasi: and Judah is not the Talmud (---- correct Ketubah_Nasi: Judah however ARE the jews Ketubah_Nasi: they are the only people group qualifying purewhiteisraelite: who do you believe is the Tribe of Dan? Ketubah_Nasi: probably those settled in Denmark purewhiteisraelite: bingo purewhiteisraelite: what about Nephtali? Ketubah_Nasi: not, sure would have to check on that purewhiteisraelite: Norway purewhiteisraelite: how about Asher? purewhiteisraelite: Sweden, Russia, Ukraine Ketubah_Nasi: not sure again, I have books that trace the migrations purewhiteisraelite: what tribe do you believe is Germany? Ketubah_Nasi: not sure. the tribes are in many ways scattered, each country is not indicative of the exclusive population of whatever tribe, but may hold a majority of that tribe purewhiteisraelite: we have proof that Germany is the TRibe of Judah purewhiteisraelite: and I guarandamntee you that Germans don't think of themselves as "jews" Ketubah_Nasi: I doubt it highly. purewhiteisraelite: then who are the Germans? Ketubah_Nasi: Germans do not follow hardly any of the Torah purewhiteisraelite: 99% of Germans are Christians Ketubah_Nasi: and they have the same identity factors as the rest of the lost sheep Ketubah_Nasi: christians are not predominzately jews purewhiteisraelite: and Christianity, regardless of its faults, is closer to the Torah than ANYBODY else Ketubah_Nasi: christians are from the lost house of israel, ten tribes Ketubah_Nasi: no, thats not the case Ketubah_Nasi: Jews are closer to torah , at least, than christians Ketubah_Nasi: Jews have the transmission of Torah in the Hebrew Ketubah_Nasi: did chrisgtians? Ketubah_Nasi: nope Ketubah_Nasi: they transmitted it in greek and latin Ketubah_Nasi: another clue for you Ketubah_Nasi: the arayan message is wrong purewhite purewhiteisraelite: German is descended directly from Hebrew, Yiddish is NOT purewhiteisraelite: it's Yiddish which is not Hebrew Ketubah_Nasi: so is english Ketubah_Nasi: so is french purewhiteisraelite: exactly purewhiteisraelite: 95% of English came from Hebrew Ketubah_Nasi: thats because Hebrew is the root language purewhiteisraelite: but it's not the root langauge of Yiddish--why not? Ketubah_Nasi: abnd Yiddish is merely a dialect of Hebrew, understandable since the Jews assimilated to some extent in Europe purewhiteisraelite: it's not at all based on Hebrew purewhiteisraelite: it's turkish-Mongol purewhiteisraelite: and Turks and Mongols are not Israelites Ketubah_Nasi: putrewhite, Hebrew is the 1 language everyone spoke before Babel. Hence ALL languages decend form Hebrew, after the tower of Babel purewhiteisraelite: they don't even begin to make such a claim purewhiteisraelite: Asians? purewhiteisraelite: Africans? purewhiteisraelite: Indians purewhiteisraelite: no Ketubah_Nasi: some indians are decended from the lost tribes, particularily Cherokees Ketubah_Nasi: astounding similarities amongst them purewhiteisraelite: but they mixed races and can no longer claim to be Israelites Ketubah_Nasi: Israel is a mixed multitue now, its not about skin colour purewhiteisraelite: Indians don't even have a written language purewhiteisraelite: Israel always puts away the mixed multitude purewhiteisraelite: and we wil again purewhiteisraelite: in spades Ketubah_Nasi: no, Israel puts away idolaters purewhiteisraelite: mixed multitudes Ketubah_Nasi: you are acting more like an Assyrian than an israelite purewhite purewhiteisraelite: why did the priests sacrifice a ram? Ketubah_Nasi: Israelites also allowed the wayfarer to covnert, and become part of Israel Ketubah_Nasi: I note Ruth, the moabitess purewhiteisraelite: Ezr 10:18 And among the sons of the priests there were found that had taken strange wives: namely, of the sons of Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and his brethren; Maaseiah, and Eliezer, and Jarib, and Gedaliah. purewhiteisraelite: there were no Moabites at the time of Ruth--Israel destroyed them all Ketubah_Nasi: strange wives = idolatrous wives of dfiferent religion purewhiteisraelite: she was an Israelite living in Moab purewhiteisraelite: hence was a "moabitess" by residency, not race Ketubah_Nasi: and yesm there were moabites, because prkihecy states they will be punished in the latter days purewhiteisraelite: no, it's non-Israelite wives Ketubah_Nasi: no, its non-Yahweh fearing wives purewhiteisraelite: "strange" comes from "nokriy", which means non-Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: Moses married a cushite, a black woman Ketubah_Nasi: and purewhiteisraelite: why would Moses do that with 3 million Israelites all around him? Ketubah_Nasi: Israelite is about faith in Yahweh, not SKIN COLOUR purewhiteisraelite: she was an Israelite living in Cush Ketubah_Nasi: because they had black wives too Ketubah_Nasi: i have heard that argument, its eisogesis purewhiteisraelite: sure, it's about faith, but you MUST be a pure descendant of Jacob, otherwise you're a mamzer Ketubah_Nasi: no, incorrect, the lost house of Israel does aNOT have it identity racially, its a MIXED MULTITUDE Ketubah_Nasi: BLACKS Ketubah_Nasi: included purewhiteisraelite: why did the priests sacrifice the ram then? Ketubah_Nasi: and other colours Ketubah_Nasi: brown, etc Ketubah_Nasi: you will have to clarify purewhiteisraelite: you think the Danes married niggers? purewhiteisraelite: or the Swedes? purewhiteisraelite: or Germans? purewhiteisraelite: never happen Ketubah_Nasi: thats irrelevent, the point is that all of the tribes intermarried purewhiteisraelite: if they do, the offspring are not Israelites, they're mamzers Ketubah_Nasi: and intermixed purewhiteisraelite: that's ok purewhiteisraelite: it's marrying OUTSIDE of the tribes Ketubah_Nasi: no, a mamzer is a child with no father to speak for him purewhiteisraelite: that is an abomination and blasphemy purewhiteisraelite: the only sin purewhiteisraelite: that's called both Ketubah_Nasi: purewhite, its not wrong to marry a black woman, IF she fears Yahweh purewhiteisraelite: how did Solomon sin? Ketubah_Nasi: too many wives purewhiteisraelite: wrong, it's a mortal sin Ketubah_Nasi: and following them into idolatry purewhiteisraelite: what was Solomon's sin? Ketubah_Nasi: purewhite, no, its finem, according to torah Ketubah_Nasi: solomons sins was in following his wives into idolatry - RELIGIOUS ISSUE, NOT SKIN COLOUR ISSUE purewhiteisraelite: And King Solomon loved many foreign women, even the daughter of Pharaoh, Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Sidonians, Hittites; 1Ki 11:1 Ketubah_Nasi: is there any condemnation there? Ketubah_Nasi: no purewhiteisraelite: Did not Solomon king of Israel sin by these things? yet among many nations was there no king like him, and he was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did foreign women cause to sin. Neh 13:26-27 Ketubah_Nasi: the condemnation comes later when it says they lead him stray purewhiteisraelite: it was a SIN to marry non-Israelite wives, EVEN for Solomon Ketubah_Nasi: yes, they "caused him to sin" Ketubah_Nasi: its not a skin colour issue purewhiteisraelite: it was a SIN Ketubah_Nasi: the mariages itself were not the problem purewhiteisraelite: he married non-Israelite women Ketubah_Nasi: it weas what the wives caused him to do that made him sin purewhiteisraelite: and the consequences were terrible Ketubah_Nasi: no, wrong Ketubah_Nasi: its anot about colour Ketubah_Nasi: not about colour Ketubah_Nasi: its about aRELIGION purewhiteisraelite: who said it's ab out color? You' purewhiteisraelite: I said it's about race Ketubah_Nasi: you are Ketubah_Nasi: race is a misnomer purewhiteisraelite: there are some Whites who are not Israelites Ketubah_Nasi: we all come from Adam purewhiteisraelite: but there are NO blacks who are Ketubah_Nasi: race term is a misnomer purewhiteisraelite: what does "tribe" mean? Ketubah_Nasi: sorry, many blacks are part of the lost sheep if Israel purewhiteisraelite: no, never purewhiteisraelite: do you have blacks in your lineage? Ketubah_Nasi: you may have them. who knows, anybody may have one or two Ketubah_Nasi: you can still look white and have a black in yoru lineage Ketubah_Nasi: 2700 years pal Ketubah_Nasi: thats alot of overlap Ketubah_Nasi: you can still loook white purewhiteisraelite: I can guarantee you that when someone of my race marries a nigger, they are never ever accepted purewhiteisraelite: folr a million years they're not accepted Ketubah_Nasi: yes, perhaps by you, but thats because you misapply thescriptures Ketubah_Nasi: and BOAST against the branches that bore you purewhiteisraelite: makes no difference what you think about that--it's a fact of life purewhiteisraelite: and it's true for ALL true Israelites purewhiteisraelite: but not for jews Ketubah_Nasi: its "your" fact of life, but not representative of the scriptures purewhiteisraelite: because Jews DO have niggers in their ancestry Ketubah_Nasi: so do you , a good chance Ketubah_Nasi: or indian Ketubah_Nasi: or something not white Ketubah_Nasi: hitler even had a hew in his ancestry, and he did his best to hide it Ketubah_Nasi: hew =- jew purewhiteisraelite: I promise you that I know, and there is NO such thing Ketubah_Nasi: i doubt you know anything about it, especially over 2700 years purewhiteisraelite: Hitler also protected the jews, and killed 264 million Christians purewhiteisraelite: ketubah, it' snot something that a family can hide purewhiteisraelite: it also shows up in the racial features Ketubah_Nasi: yes, after so many generations the black coour gene can become hidden purewhiteisraelite: I've known people who were 1/128th negroid, and it shows loud and clearj Ketubah_Nasi: after even four generations purewhiteisraelite: it's not color purewhiteisraelite: its' race Ketubah_Nasi: race is a misnomer purewhiteisraelite: the Negroid features are mostly not color Ketubah_Nasi: no such thing Ketubah_Nasi: we all come form 1 race purewhiteisraelite: give me a break Ketubah_Nasi: qwe all come form Adam purewhiteisraelite: you are part nigger, aren't you?" Ketubah_Nasi: we all come from Adam Ketubah_Nasi: i dont know, are you? purewhiteisraelite: Whites do NOT talk like or believe what you're saying now purewhiteisraelite: No, of course I'm not Ketubah_Nasi: im sure there is somdething in your bloodline you wold cringe at, havnig such foolish doctrine Ketubah_Nasi: oh, i see, so "white" is a mentality now, and not just a colour, huh Ketubah_Nasi: interesting Ketubah_Nasi: you decend into the LUDICROUS purewhiteisraelite: I guaranatee you that we know our lineage, and every single member of my race who went wrong--which fortunately isn't that often Ketubah_Nasi: no lost sheep fo the house of Israel knows their lineage Ketubah_Nasi: even Jews cannot make that claim prior to ad 70 purewhiteisraelite: but when they do, their descendants are no longer part of my race--the Israelite race Ketubah_Nasi: thats a flat luie Ketubah_Nasi: and i challenge you tp PROVE you decend from ancient Israel purewhiteisraelite: I agree that jews ARE mixed purewhiteisraelite: and that they have Negroid ancestry Ketubah_Nasi: and so are you purewhiteisraelite: but Israelits do no, by Israelite law Ketubah_Nasi: and so do you Ketubah_Nasi: yes they do Ketubah_Nasi: you cannot prove that over 2700 years, you have remained white and only white Ketubah_Nasi: there are surely some other colours mixed in there, facded to the background purewhiteisraelite: a "nikro" is NEVER accepted as an Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: thats your terminaology, not in keeping with torah purewhiteisraelite: A mamzer shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD, Deuteronomy 23:2 purewhiteisraelite: "even to the tenth generation" is a Hebraism which means FOREVER Ketubah_Nasi: yes because he has no father to speak for him, it would be disorderly Ketubah_Nasi: and to the tenth does not mean forerver purewhiteisraelite: for TEN GENERATIONS? purewhiteisraelite: why do that to someone just because they had parents who weren't married? Ketubah_Nasi: a mamzer can be adiopted, and become no more a mamzer purewhiteisraelite: TENTH GENERATION purewhiteisraelite: NEVER purewhiteisraelite: a mamzer is mixed race purewhiteisraelite: mongrel Ketubah_Nasi: why exclude people of colour just because of their skin colour ? Ketubah_Nasi: no, a mamzer is someone without a father purewhiteisraelite: http://fathersmanifesto.net/mamzer.htm purewhiteisraelite: because they're NOT Israelites Ketubah_Nasi: you have hijacked terms and redefined them purewhiteisraelite: http://fathersmanifesto.net/bastard.htm purewhiteisraelite: look at that definition of "bastard" Ketubah_Nasi: and you have gone after a doctrine to assuage your political, economic, and personal vedetta against the perceieved wrons blacks have done you Ketubah_Nasi: but, your theology is all eisogesis purewhiteisraelite: "the offspring of parents of different races or nationalities". Ketubah_Nasi: and doesnt hold water Ketubah_Nasi: thats an arayan defintiion purewhiteisraelite: that's teh definition of "bastard" at the time the word "mamzer" was translated by the KJV Ketubah_Nasi: thats not a torah defintion Ketubah_Nasi: i would doubt that highly, unless the dictionary you are using was written and edited by anglo-israelists purewhiteisraelite: that's the Torah definition, your definition is from the Talmud purewhiteisraelite: do you trust Strong's Concordance? Ketubah_Nasi: no, i trust torah Ketubah_Nasi: aND ONLY TORAH purewhiteisraelite: From an unused root mian. to alienate; a mongrel purewhiteisraelite: this is Stron'gs definition purewhiteisraelite: look it up yourseslf purewhiteisraelite: it's strong's #4464 Ketubah_Nasi: i do not trust strongs purewhiteisraelite: what does YOUR dictionary say that a mamzer is? purewhiteisraelite: of course you don't purewhiteisraelite: all you trust is Talmud Ketubah_Nasi: you can clearly see that people of other colours were in Israel Ketubah_Nasi: was Uriah a mamzer according to you ? Ketubah_Nasi: i dont even own a talmud purewhiteisraelite: Uriah was rightly removed from the congregation of the LORD purewhiteisraelite: David's sin was letting a Hittite into the congregation purewhiteisraelite: An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD forever: Deuteronomy 23:3 purewhiteisraelite: Ammonites and Moabites were excluded based soley on RACE purewhiteisraelite: they were descendants of Moab and Ammon Ketubah_Nasi: if thats thecase, Yahweh would have commended David, not rebuked him purewhiteisraelite: God killed David's firstborn for it purewhiteisraelite: also to be sure a Hittites son wasn't in line to be king purewhiteisraelite: kings can come only from israel purewhiteisraelite: Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger [read: nikro] over thee, which is not thy brethren. Deuteronomy 17:15 Ketubah_Nasi: purewhite, you completely misinterpreted the David thing, the entire parable that Nathan gave him had nothing to do with race, or kicking out the "nikro", it had EVERYTHING to do with taking another man's wife. Ketubah_Nasi: again, you prove your scripture twisting of elementary passages to create your preconcieved doctrine of colour-superiority purewhiteisraelite: an Israelite woman who "marries" a Hittite has a marriage which is null and void Ketubah_Nasi: then there would be no point in Nathan giving the parable of the lambs purewhiteisraelite: you misinterpret the parable Ketubah_Nasi: in the parable, the rich man was RIGHT to steal the poor mans 1 lamb Ketubah_Nasi: accordin to your thiking purewhiteisraelite: and you can't change God's Law purewhiteisraelite: Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger [read: nikro] over thee, which is not thy brethren. Deuteronomy 17:15 Ketubah_Nasi: you are misunderstanding God's law purewhiteisraelite: what does this say to you, ketubbah? Ketubah_Nasi: deal with the point at hand Ketubah_Nasi: deal with the parable given to David Ketubah_Nasi: you cant get around it Ketubah_Nasi: if david was justified, then the rich man should not have been seen as "bad" for taking the 1 lamb/wife of Uriah purewhiteisraelite: can a Hittite be a king? Ketubah_Nasi: you completely twist this purewhiteisraelite: no Ketubah_Nasi: thats a different issue purewhiteisraelite: read this again and tell me what you think this means purewhiteisraelite: Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger [read: nikro] over thee, which is not thy brethren. Deuteronomy 17:15 Ketubah_Nasi: and IF he converst, he BECOMES ISRAEL ANYWAY, uriah may not have converted, but was only bonded to David purewhiteisraelite: a Hittite cannot "convert" Ketubah_Nasi: but YHWH still considered the marriage valid re: Uriah and Bathsheba purewhiteisraelite: show me that verse Ketubah_Nasi: yes they can purewhiteisraelite: a Moabite or Ammonite cannot "convert" purewhiteisraelite: you're making this stuff up as we go Ketubah_Nasi: Ex:12:48: And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: Ketubah_Nasi: deal with it pal Ketubah_Nasi: and he shall be as one that is born in the land:
Ketubah_Nasi: hence, he BECOMES ISRAEL
purewhiteisraelite: Deuteronomy 7:2 and when Jehovah thy God shall deliver them up before thee, and thou shalt smite them; then thou shalt utterly destroy them: thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them Ketubah_Nasi: no, im finished with this foolishness purewhite, you need to repent ofyour error
purewhiteisraelite: that "stranger" is a DIFFERENT word than "nokriy" purewhiteisraelite: you need to know which Hebrew word that is Ketubah_Nasi: and stop speaking badly about other colours, who are israel, or the jews
purewhiteisraelite: I hate jews and niggers, ketubah, and you love them Ketubah_Nasi: purewhite, i hardly think those in your group know hebrew very well at all
purewhiteisraelite: that's your problem not mine Ketubah_Nasi: then you cannot have eternal life if you hate them
Ketubah_Nasi: and YHWH is against you purewhite
Ketubah_Nasi: and against your murderous plans
purewhiteisraelite: jews and "eternal life" are so far from each other it's not funny purewhiteisraelite: look up that word "stranger" purewhiteisraelite: http://fathersmanifesto.net/stranger.htm purewhiteisraelite: there are 8 Hebrew words which are all translated as "stranger" purewhiteisraelite: the one you quoted is a fellow Israelite purewhiteisraelite: a "nokriy" is ANY non-Israelite purewhiteisraelite: Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose: one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger [read: nikro] over thee, which is not thy brethren. Deuteronomy 17:15 purewhiteisraelite: WHO did God command the Israelites to MAKE NO COVENANT WITH? purewhiteisraelite: HITTITES purewhiteisraelite: Deuteronomy 7:1 When Jehovah thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and shall cast out many nations before thee, the Hittite, and the Girgashite, and the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Perizzite, and the Hivite, and the Jebusite, seven nations greater and mightier than thou purewhiteisraelite: Deuteronomy 7:2 and when Jehovah thy God shall deliver them up before thee, and thou shalt smite them; then thou shalt utterly destroy them: thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto them; purewhiteisraelite: Deuteronomy 7:3 neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son purewhiteisraelite: NO COVENANT purewhiteisraelite: NO MARRIAGE purewhiteisraelite: NO HITTITES purewhiteisraelite: KINGS MUST BE ISRAELITES purewhiteisraelite: HITTITES CANNOT "CONVERT" purewhiteisraelite: ONLY A "STRANGER" WHO'S AN ISRAELITE FROM ANOTHER TRIBE CAN enter purewhiteisraelite: have you looked up the word "stranger" yet? purewhiteisraelite: Exo 12:48 And when3588 a stranger1616 shall sojourn1481 with854 thee, and will keep6213 the passover6453 to the LORD,3068 let all3605 his males2145 be circumcised,4135 purewhiteisraelite: this term "stranger" was translated from the Hebrew word "ger" [#1616] which ALWAYS means a fellow Israelite, it is NOT a nikro [#5237] which ALWAYS means a NON-Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: have you come again to treach us error, before the appointed time??????????????????????????????? whooo aaaaahhh hahahahahah Ketubah_Nasi: purewhiteisraelite: did you look up the word "nekar" and "ger"? purewhiteisraelite: they're both translated as "stranger" Ketubah_Nasi: no, have not discussed this yet, i will perhaps, in due time purewhiteisraelite: but one is an Isrealite, and the other is not purewhiteisraelite: now is the time purewhiteisraelite: even concordances note the difference Ketubah_Nasi: at any rate, i will give you this, the book of Jasher relates how the sons of Ham shall always serve the sons of Shem purewhiteisraelite: all sons of Ham are referred to as "nikro" purewhiteisraelite: but so are many of the sons of Seth Ketubah_Nasi: is that where the term nigro came from ? purewhiteisraelite: it seems like it purewhiteisraelite: though we don't have the precise etymology purewhiteisraelite: the Ammonites were sons of Seth, and were "nikro" purewhiteisraelite: the only non-Israelites who I haven't found scripture where they're referred to as "nikros" are the Ishmaelites purewhiteisraelite: descendants of Hagar purewhiteisraelite: the word "ger" always refers to Israelites who're travelling in other nations [read: tribes]
May 26, 2005 Ketubah_Nasi: We reject these interpretation and beleive all colour groups represent the house of Israel because fo thd dispersion and assimilation over 2700 years Ketubah_Nasi: We reject Arayan bible interpretatiions Ketubah_Nasi: we REJECT the notiion that there was only a regional flood Ketubah_Nasi: we REJECT the serpent seed doctrine Ketubah_Nasi: we reject all of these fallaciaous ideas Ketubah_Nasi: No, I will not join ,I have to attend to duties Ketubah_Nasi: We reject these interpretation and beleive all colour groups represent the house of Israel because fo thd dispersion and assimilation over 2700 years Ketubah_Nasi: We reject Arayan bible interpretatiions Ketubah_Nasi: we REJECT the notiion that there was only a regional flood Ketubah_Nasi: we REJECT the serpent seed doctrine Ketubah_Nasi: we reject all of these fallaciaous ideas Ketubah_Nasi: No, I will not join ,I have to attend to duties purewhiteisraelite: who is "we" purewhiteisraelite: just saw your pm purewhiteisraelite: who is "we" who rejects all this? purewhiteisraelite: and what is the difference between "nikro" and "ger"?
May 27, 2005 Ketubah_Nasi: <<(05/26/05 5:53 PM EDT)>> I personally think I won that debateMamzerhammer: there is no debateMamzerhammer: God's Law cannot change, not even with a thousand volumes of the TalmudMamzerhammer: a ger is a fellow Israelite from one tribe visiting another tribeMamzerhammer: a nikro is a non-Israelite who cannot ever enter the congregation of the LORDMamzerhammer: simpleMamzerhammer: if you deny that, you deny God's Word, you don't win a "debate"
Ketubah_Nasi: <<(05/27/05 4:15 PM EDT)>> I deny your interpretation. You do not even beleive the flood account, and you say "I" am ignoring scripture ? Mamzerhammer: the "flood account" says that the "erets" was flooded Mamzerhammer: Abraham walked the "erets" in one day Mamzerhammer: why do you ignore that? Mamzerhammer: do you think Abraham walked the entire "world" in one day? Mamzerhammer: it's a mistranslation to claim that "erets" means the whole world Mamzerhammer: Gen 13:17 Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it; for I will give it unto thee. Mamzerhammer: Gen 7:6 And Noah [was] six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth. Mamzerhammer: "land" and "earth" are the same Hebrew word Mamzerhammer: does it mean "world" or "land"?
May 30, 2005
gleamingwhiteisraelite: so how are we wrong? Ketubah_Nasi: you deny a worldwide flood Ketubah_Nasi: you have 2 seedline error Ketubah_Nasi: you deny moses married cushite/black woman Ketubah_Nasi: you deny ruth was moabitess gleamingwhiteisraelite: the Holy Bible says nothing about a worldwide flood, and it's impossible Ketubah_Nasi: all in order to preserve your racial identity notions from one law Ketubah_Nasi: it was possible then Ketubah_Nasi: different conditions on the earth Ketubah_Nasi: 2x air poressure, 30 percent more oxygen gleamingwhiteisraelite: the Holy Bible only says "the erets" was flooded Ketubah_Nasi: canopy of water over the earth Ketubah_Nasi: you can define erez as worldwide gleamingwhiteisraelite: it was jews who "interpreted" erets to mean the whole world, but only when it was convenient Ketubah_Nasi: sorry, ALL CULTURES have flood story Ketubah_Nasi: worldwide in scope gleamingwhiteisraelite: so what? Ketubah_Nasi: you use exegetic gymnastic to preserve your provate interetation of the Torah gleamingwhiteisraelite: that doesn't change God's Word one bit Ketubah_Nasi: provate = private gleamingwhiteisraelite: the word "erets" is usually translated as "land", not Earth Ketubah_Nasi: you deny God by hating they brother gleamingwhiteisraelite: jews are NOT my "brother" Ketubah_Nasi: of yes they are Ketubah_Nasi: you deny it, but God sees gleamingwhiteisraelite: only Israelites are my brother gleamingwhiteisraelite: nobody else Ketubah_Nasi: you are filled with hate. you cannot be saved and hate thy brother Ketubah_Nasi: you deny Yahshua who gave parable citing samaritan as "brother" to judah gleamingwhiteisraelite: a Samaritan IS an Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: all mankind each ones brother Ketubah_Nasi: no, they are not gleamingwhiteisraelite: the people who were moved into the territory were NEVERF called Samaritans Ketubah_Nasi: again, you deny plain text Ketubah_Nasi: thats 4 exegetical gymnastics gleamingwhiteisraelite: Howbeit every nation made gods of their own, and put [them] in the houses of the high places which the Samaritans had made, every nation in their cities wherein they dwelt. 2Ki 17:29 Ketubah_Nasi: thats doesnbt prove anything gleamingwhiteisraelite: ONLY Israelites were ever Samaritans, and you jews LIE when you say otherwise Ketubah_Nasi: thats after the house of israel was caRRIED AWAY Ketubah_Nasi: the assyrians IMPORTED them into the land occupied prevoiously by the house of israel Ketubah_Nasi: im not a jew Ketubah_Nasi: im a member of the house of israel gleamingwhiteisraelite: Ketubah, if you can't read that, you are a jew Ketubah_Nasi: you are the ones lying AND ACTING LIKE ASSYRIANS Ketubah_Nasi: everyone a jew who disagrees with you huh? gleamingwhiteisraelite: nobody but jews can't comprehend that SCRIPTURE says that Israelites are Samaritans, and Samaritans are Israelites Ketubah_Nasi: whole word a jew then Ketubah_Nasi: they are not the same Ketubah_Nasi: history bears this out gleamingwhiteisraelite: the "goy" who were moved into Samaria were NEVER called Samaritans Ketubah_Nasi: aNY house of israel left intermarried Ketubah_Nasi: so this two destroys your arguments gleamingwhiteisraelite: show me ONE verse which says that Israelites "intermarried" Ketubah_Nasi: history shows it gleamingwhiteisraelite: it was a blasphemy and an abomination for an Israelite to marry outside of the tribes gleamingwhiteisraelite: the offspring would NOT be Israelites gleamingwhiteisraelite: Ezr 10:19 And they gave their hands that they would put away their wives; and being guilty, they offered a ram of the flock for their trespass. gleamingwhiteisraelite: Ezr 10:18 And among the sons of the priests there were found that had taken nikro wives: namely, of the sons of Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and his brethren; Maaseiah, and Eliezer, and Jarib, and Gedaliah gleamingwhiteisraelite: it was a SIN, even for priests Ketubah_Nasi: you are making this racial when its religious gleamingwhiteisraelite: "nokri" means race, not religion Ketubah_Nasi: you are using spirious translation gleamingwhiteisraelite: all non-Israelites are called "nikro" regardless of their religion Ketubah_Nasi: are you using greek ?> Ketubah_Nasi: why use greek in OT ? Ketubah_Nasi: use hebrew gleamingwhiteisraelite: this is Hebrew gleamingwhiteisraelite: "nikro" is a Hebrew word gleamingwhiteisraelite: http://fathersmanifesto.net/nikro.htm gleamingwhiteisraelite: that has all the occurrences of "nikro", not one is related to "religion" Ketubah_Nasi: you know, it would be one thing if you guys claimed you were israel and then started acting like israel, and keeping the torah. but the fact that you act and look nothing like Israel tells me you cannot be israel , that you are still blind gleamingwhiteisraelite: so what? gleamingwhiteisraelite: the Scripture doesn't change anyway gleamingwhiteisraelite: and Israelites can NEVER marry non-Israelites, period Ketubah_Nasi: so what? it measn you are not israel, it means you do NOT serve the Elohim of Avraham Yitchac and Yaacov, and it measn you are a bunch of hypocrites Ketubah_Nasi: and besides, you are lal intermarried anyway Ketubah_Nasi: every one of you Ketubah_Nasi: even hitler had jew blood in him gleamingwhiteisraelite: Hitler WAS a je gleamingwhiteisraelite: w gleamingwhiteisraelite: Hitler was NOT an Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: i thought hitler was your buddy Ketubah_Nasi: your pal gleamingwhiteisraelite: Hitler killed 264 million ISRAELITES Ketubah_Nasi: whats the deal" hm ? gleamingwhiteisraelite: read: Christians gleamingwhiteisraelite: Hitler was a JEW, and I HATE jews Ketubah_Nasi: thats strange. i thought he was your buddy Ketubah_Nasi: you dont wera swastika on your head , shaved like neo-nazi ? gleamingwhiteisraelite: why would a jew be my buddy? gleamingwhiteisraelite: Hitler KILLEd 264 million Christians,many of them my ancestors and relatives Ketubah_Nasi: i see. so whats so bad about the jews ? gleamingwhiteisraelite: for one thing, they KILLED 264 million gleamingwhiteisraelite: Christians in Europe gleamingwhiteisraelite: and 65 million in Russia Ketubah_Nasi: lol Ketubah_Nasi: you make me laugh Ketubah_Nasi: dont you mean the catholic church killed them ?> gleamingwhiteisraelite: ? gleamingwhiteisraelite: Hitler was a JEW, not a Catholic Ketubah_Nasi: what history you been reading pal ! gleamingwhiteisraelite: no Catholic leader ever accepted Hitler Ketubah_Nasi: hitler was an accultist Ketubah_Nasi: they hid his band of bloody men gleamingwhiteisraelite: I livedin Germany 9 years,and Russia 2 years gleamingwhiteisraelite: American "history" is wrong Ketubah_Nasi: the jews do not rule the world! Ketubah_Nasi: if they did, israel would have been established LONG BEFORE NOW gleamingwhiteisraelite: jews are NOT Israelites gleamingwhiteisraelite: the Germans are the Tribe of Judah, not "jews" gleamingwhiteisraelite: nd I guarantee you that Germans and jews are NOT the same race Ketubah_Nasi: germans do not keep the torah gleamingwhiteisraelite: 99% of Germans are Christians gleamingwhiteisraelite: you can't get closer to the Torah than that Ketubah_Nasi: its not about christian gleamingwhiteisraelite: no other country can claim that Ketubah_Nasi: its abotu torah Ketubah_Nasi: that defines jews gleamingwhiteisraelite: the first five books ARE the Torah gleamingwhiteisraelite: what jews practice is TALMUD,not Torah gleamingwhiteisraelite: BIG DIFFEREN CE Ketubah_Nasi: germans dont keep first five books gleamingwhiteisraelite: nobody on the planet keeps the first five books of the Holy Bible better than the Germans--nobody gleamingwhiteisraelite: jews are so far off it's not even funny gleamingwhiteisraelite: they don't even know what Israelite law IS Ketubah_Nasi: germans do not keep most of the laws gleamingwhiteisraelite: why don't you come in here and discuss it? Ketubah_Nasi: im in another room Ketubah_Nasi: YHWHs Patriarchal marriage gleamingwhiteisraelite: what jews do is the OPPOSITE of the Torah, what Germans do might not be precise, but no other race is any closer to the Torah than Germans gleamingwhiteisraelite: ah Ketubah_Nasi: wrong, germans are way off gleamingwhiteisraelite: how would you know? gleamingwhiteisraelite: you know nothing about Germans except what the LYING jews in the US want you to know Ketubah_Nasi: because i understand and know protestant europe gleamingwhiteisraelite: I grew up there Ketubah_Nasi: i could ask you a series of questions to see if they keep torah gleamingwhiteisraelite: how do you know "protestant Europe"? gleamingwhiteisraelite: your series of questions are JEW LAW, not Israelite, read: God's Law gleamingwhiteisraelite: it's exactly what Jesus REJECTED Ketubah_Nasi: I read form genesis to deuteronomy gleamingwhiteisraelite: and you understand utterly none of it gleamingwhiteisraelite: you don't even know what a mamzer is gleamingwhiteisraelite: you don't know what a nokriy is gleamingwhiteisraelite: these are BASIC things Ketubah_Nasi: i know what strongs says it is, and it doesn mention race gleamingwhiteisraelite: even Stron'gs DOES mention race, and Strong's is mostly WRONG Ketubah_Nasi: it mentions it, but there are other dfinitions Ketubah_Nasi: and race may not be the deciding factor Ketubah_Nasi: religion always is gleamingwhiteisraelite: Strong's Lexicon H4464 ���� mamze^r mam-zare' From an unused root mian. to alienate; a mongrel gleamingwhiteisraelite: this is Strong's gleamingwhiteisraelite: what's a mongrel? gleamingwhiteisraelite: a "religion", or a "race"? gleamingwhiteisraelite: Strong's Lexicon H4464 ���� mamze^r mam-zare' From an unused root mian. to alienate; a mongrel gleamingwhiteisraelite: did that come thru? gleamingwhiteisraelite: does Strong's say "mongrel" in your reference? Ketubah_Nasi: mongrel could mean religious gleamingwhiteisraelite: NO Ketubah_Nasi: or blend of many religions gleamingwhiteisraelite: it ALWA gleamingwhiteisraelite: YS Ketubah_Nasi: like bhai gleamingwhiteisraelite: refers to mixed race Ketubah_Nasi: you are making this about skin colour, it isnt Ketubah_Nasi: its about religion gleamingwhiteisraelite: Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary -- mon'grel (mun'grel), n. A cross between types of persons or things. adj. Of or pertaining to an impure or mixed breed or race. gleamingwhiteisraelite: show me a dictionary which defines "mongrel" as religious Ketubah_Nasi: race is a misnomer anyway gleamingwhiteisraelite: there is NO such thing Ketubah_Nasi: it infers there are several ines of humanity based on an evolutionary cycle gleamingwhiteisraelite: Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary -- mon'grel (mun'grel), n. A cross between types of persons or things. adj. Of or pertaining to an impure or mixed breed or race. gleamingwhiteisraelite: this means RACE Ketubah_Nasi: no, the scriptures speak plainly. the messiah had Rahab in his line gleamingwhiteisraelite: Webster's New World Dictionary -- mon grel (mun'grel) adj. of mixed breed, race, origin, or character Ketubah_Nasi: or character gleamingwhiteisraelite: Rehab was an ISRAELITE Ketubah_Nasi: thats the correct interpretation ot use in the scriptures Ketubah_Nasi: no she wasnt Ketubah_Nasi: 'she was not israelite Ketubah_Nasi: neither was moses second wife Ketubah_Nasi: neither was ruth Ketubah_Nasi: you guys are WAAAAAAAAAYYY of gleamingwhiteisraelite: Ruth was an ISRAELITE Ketubah_Nasi: lol Ketubah_Nasi: bible says she was moabitess gleamingwhiteisraelite: otherwise she would not qualify as a kinsman redeemere gleamingwhiteisraelite: KINSMAN gleamingwhiteisraelite: is Israelite Ketubah_Nasi: she qualify through her husband Ketubah_Nasi: nt of herself gleamingwhiteisraelite: Ruth was a "Moabitess" because she was an Israelite living in Moab--all the Moabs had b een destroyed 4 centuries earlier gleamingwhiteisraelite: there were NO Moabs at the time of Ruth Ketubah_Nasi: no, thats incorrect, because moab is still to be struck down in the future gleamingwhiteisraelite: The Israelites who took that land were called "Moabites" only because they lived there Ketubah_Nasi: no, wrong Ketubah_Nasi: prophecies talk of moabites in future gleamingwhiteisraelite: not in Moab Ketubah_Nasi: hence your arguments fails gleamingwhiteisraelite: they were all d estroyed or exiled gleamingwhiteisraelite: they could not remain in Moab gleamingwhiteisraelite: God commanded it Ketubah_Nasi: i beleive scriptures say moabitess. Ketubah_Nasi: and hence is beleive Ketubah_Nasi: if she was israelite, she would noth ave said "my god shall be your god" Ketubah_Nasi: she came FROM paganism Ketubah_Nasi: hence she was moabitess gleamingwhiteisraelite: it says nothing about Ruth being a pagan, and it's NOT about religion gleamingwhiteisraelite: a Moabite can NEVER enter the congregaiton of the LORD Ketubah_Nasi: you didnt answer my objecxtion Ketubah_Nasi logged off at 11:28 AM
June 10, 2005
purewhiteisraelite: ever figure out why the Israelites would let a Moabite in the
congregation and violate God's Law?
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