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kike
Kike is not even listed in Webster's New World Dictionary, so it cannot be considered an English word. Webster's on-line version offers the following definition:
If it's not even an English word in one version of Webster's, then how can it be considered "usually offensive" in another? If it was jews themselves who referred to EACH other as kikes, then exactly WHO is it offensive to? Certainly not US!@
kike is a jew wordhttp://kpearson.faculty.tcnj.edu/Dictionary/kike.htm To borrow from Leo Rosten's The Joys of Yiddish, "The word kike was born on Ellis Island, when Jewish immigrants who were illiterate (or could not use Roman-English letters), when asked to sign the entry-forms with the customary 'X,' refused -- and instead made a circle. The Yiddish word for 'circle' is kikel (pronounced KY - kel), and for 'little circle,' kikeleh. Before long the immigration inspectors were calling anyone who signed with an 'O' instead of an 'X' a kikel or kikeleh or kikee or, finally and succinctly, kike." Rosten explains that for the Jewish immigrants, an 'X' was an evil sign, representing both the horrors of crucifixion and the sign of their (Christian) oppressors. Jewish - American merchants continued to sign with an 'O' instead of an 'X' for several decades, spreading the nickname kike wherever they went as a natural result. At that time kike was more of an affectionate term, or used by Jews to describe other Jews, and only developed into a racial slur later on.
http://www.egroups.com/message/patriarchy/8229 This post from SUPER
KIKE Jan Diechmohle illustrates how:
As a reminder and because of a mole this update is needed.
Association with Hatred and Nazis
incompatible with Patriarchy Membership
Hopefully we won't have to deal with this troublesome issue in future.
We'd better use our time for our good work opposing feminism and
promoting Patriarchy.
Unfortunately, we've to protect us from harm done by some who spread
highly objectionable stuff and at the same time try to embarrass us by
wrongly associating with us and our topics.
Please read this post or at least note that it's incompatible with
Patriarchy to associate with Nazi style militia of hatred; this isn't
a claim but proven by strong evidence in many quotations and URLs
given below.
It's not compatible with membership to post on such Nazi sites or to
forward any material from Patriarchy to them. The mole on our list
should know that forwarding Patriarchy posts to them will result in
being banned.
It's advisable not to give them attention or publicity or indirectly
credibility by referencing their names when avoidable.
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Those spreading hatred admit it and yet deny the truth very angrily
when anybody dares to call a spade a spade and hatred by its name:
>Remember and learn to hate. (Christian_Nationalist/386 )
>11. Jews would be expelled and will be bound to till the land
>with their own labors under the penalty of death.
(Yuriy Kirienko, often supported by John Knight and his associate,
KORESHX98, post Nr. 449 )
"A Revisionist Perspective" - Holocaust denial
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/17707
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/21379
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/21421
Neonazism:
Praising top nazi anti-semite Julius Streicher
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/21455
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/21456
The big picture showed white women in front of swastica ornaments and
the text calls for a boycott of kosher food.
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/18237
Racism: "GO BACK TO AFRICA NIGGERS!!"
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/18314
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/19076
>"Jews are vomit of the humand kind. ..
>Jew has been like that all of his
>history." (Yuriy Kirienko)
Such hatred shouldn't be taken lightly. Lies bashing an ethnic were
used in nazi time, lies bashing other kinds of groups in other
ideologies, in small scale in Bosnia etc. The procedure is alike:
(1.) Spread lies and falsely allege the persecuted group would do
atrocities. Use instability to spread your ideology. (2.) Real
atrocities and murder begins - allegedly just a protection.
It can happen anywhere if there are instability, trouble, disrooted
people and an evil ideology. Systematic hatred "Remember and learn to
hate" (quote) is cunningly denied by the bashers who won't allow
anybody to tell the truth and bury truth by endless mud campaigns
twisting facts into the opposite. Such systematic hatred is arson and
dangerous. In Europe we believed it couldn't happen again but it did
in small scale in Yougoslavia - first wrong allegations against
Muslims by a misused nationalism - and soon thereafter former
neighbours started to murder in their vicinity. The victims or their
relatives often knew the murderers. For decades they had lived
peacefully together. They could have never imagined it to happen.
Suddenly they were enemies along ethnical lines previously
unimportant.
Don't underestimate the dangers of hate propaganda. Don't believe to
be better than others and that it couldn't happen in your place. In
case of instability it can. No people are better or worse than others.
Given the same situation and troubles, all are in the average as
vulnerable.
Insulting false horror stories can make real atrocities possible.
>3. There is no other side of the story but drenched with
>human blood Jewish excrement that perpetuates it. And you
>worship that pile of subhuman shit preventing people's
>resistance to their murder as your other sisters
>do the same destroying the brains of the kidnapped
>children, feeding your filthy
>Jewish propaganda into their young brains.
To this highly objectionable and senseless hatred John Knight replied:
>Dear Yuriy, What would you say is the level of awareness
>of this problem by the Russian people, and how openly do
>you believe that they discuss it?
>Would you say 5% are aware, or 90%, and you say that 5%
>speak out, or 90%?
>Sincerely, John Knight
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/19106
Note the blasphemy of associating Jesus and Hitler:
www.egroups.com/christianidentity/1232
>"Subject: Jews are Traitors and Devils
...
>Jesus and Hitler Told the Truth about the Jews.
>88KKK,
>William Forrest" (Another of the lists associated to John Knight from
his cross-posting list)
Christianity teaches love. JK and associates teach hatred, spread
disunity and destroy reputation and good efforts.
This is anti-Christian and radical blasphemy, especially that they're
posing as Christians.
www.egroups.com/message/Christian_Nationalist/386 :
>"Weep those of your White Race who's families have been changed, or
>destroyed because of their relatives who shed their lives because
>of the treason and subversion of the evil Satanic Jews.
>Remember and learn to hate."
This doesn't remind some poeple of Nazism, it *is* Nazism, or else
Nazism never existed and Hitler is a fairy tale. Even the devil sent
to earth couldn't spread hatred, conflict and disunity more cunningly.
John Knight's insulting rhetorics base on lies, twists facts and deny
his hatred accusing everybody who dares to call a spade a spade and
hatred by its name:
>Yuriy didn't start this. Your TALMUD started this. If you think it's
>"hatred" for Yuriy to call Jews "vomit"
The seemingly scholarly refutation of his mis-quotations from Talmud
posted more than half a year back to repeal were completely ignored; a
learned debate wouldn't suit his purpose nor match his method of
mud-slinging and twisting facts and words into their opposite. If you
know a little of history you know that already during the crusades
insults, suffering, prejudice and even murder have been the other way
round.
Mixing the good anti-feminist arguments with low level irrationality
has been harmful. It's spoiling our reputation and good arguments
against feminism - see the Miss Understood letter.
Instead of arguments mud-slinging and threats are used:
>He should at least be tickled to death with that long feather
>that's stuck up his a..!
(From: "Fathers Manifesto" manifesto@w..., posted to several lists)
>Jan's hypocritical attempts at race baiting and censorship
>are going to backfire on him, big time.
(Betreff: Takeover of Backlash by Neo-nazi Militia Datum: Wed, 21 Jun
2000 15:54:10 -0700)
A few days later an e-mail account of mine was closed. Coincidence?
>The chutzpah of a man who would proclaim in the same post
>that he wants "tolerance" at the same time that he tells
>everyone that he "was busy opposing a neo-nazi" knows no bounds.
>
>Do you want "tolerance", Deichmohle? Then tolerate this:
>
>Christians do not "prefer sex with cows" and those who proclaim
>from the rafters that we do [or that we are "neo nazis" for
>disagreeing with your screed] have no place in our society.
>Period. (John Knight, posted to many lists)
"Those who proclaim from the rafters that we do" [prefer sex with
cows] is by JK's insulting standard rhetoric each and every Jew. Note
that he also tells that opponents [as me] have no place in society.
Concerning the Nazi matter see the URLs above and decide yourself. The
facts are obvious.
Even in his wildest nightmare Orwell may not have described such a
radical twisting of word sense as done by John Knight. "Tolerance"
means tolerating other ethnics and religions, of course. John Knight
demands excluding an ethnic - evoking horrible memories from both
biblical times and the 20th century - and calls it "tolerance" to
accept the demand to exclude them: "have no place in our society.
Period."
Even the devil or Hitler himself couldn't have possibly twisted words
and truth more cunningly into the opposite.
John Knight adds lies to lies and insults to insults. Any refutation
and fact is ignored and buried with a heap of mud and hateful words,
quoting out of context and twisting the meaning.
>then exactly what do you call it when Jews accuse Christians of
>*preferring* sex with cows. (John Knight)
Another insult instead of an argument. For telling the fact I'll face
more dirty insults. The hatred spread by JK is dangerous and it's
dangerous to associate in any way.
Any fact is buried by JK's endless repetition of hatred until the fact
is forgotten.
>This is about as STUPID as claiming that you are going to
>build an atom bomb out of the cow dung from the cows you
>claim we "prefer" sex with.
(John Knight, backlash 15827)
Repetitions don't make a lie true. It's the same technic as Hitler,
Goebbels and the feminists used: (If you tell a lie, tell a big one.
If you repeat it often enough, people will start to believe you.)
Of course I never stated any such nonsense, nor am I Jewish, nor do
Jews state it. Even his single short statement above contains at least
three big lies. By using the Nazi tactic of repetition, telling big
lies and by addressing emotion and irrationality slinging mud some
weak characters are seduced and the others embarrassed as some may
believe in an association which doesn't exist.
Having no better argument against truth proven by URLs, lies and
mud-slinging are used to silence me and to attack my credibility:
>Jan trashed all Christians in this country by insinuating
>that we are all "neo-nazis". And now you are trashing US??!!
(John Knight, From: Fathers Manifesto, Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 1:20am,
Subject: Re: Super KIKE-REPLY)
Criticizing John Knight he twists to "trashing all Christians" - who
does he think he is?
John Knight replies to his own mud-slinging using different
e-mail-addresses as Art Books (his signature resembling our Art) to
sling more mud.
>Do we have to "hate" them for being such IDIOTS?
...
>Why don't you explain to this esteemed forum why you are
>ignoring their outright HATRED, and creating HATRED where
>there is none?
>Art
(From: Art Books artbooks@r..., Date: Tue Jul 4, 2000 9:15pm,
Subject: Super KIKES)
>This two-faced Jew is stampeding all over the internet
> insulting Christians by calling them neo-nazis (John Knight)
It's of course JK and associates, *not at all* me, who states an
association of Christianity and Nazis - see the quote above comparing
Jesus and Hitler as those who allegedly told the truth.
It's of course solely JK and associates who spread hatred.
We preach tolerance and love.
An outrageous blasphemy to consider such hatred Christian! That's an
insult of Christianity and of the Christians he tries to associate
such hatred with. It's very much against Christaina vales, both the
Old and New Testament and strongly against the teaching of Jesus to
spread anti-Semite hatred.
"Two-faced" is ridiculous as John Knight twists facts and words; on an
emotional and irrational level opponents are blamed for what they
solely do themselves. That he uses "Jew" for trying to insult is
revealing again. The patriarchal world is based on love, not hate. It
is no more insulting than "Christian", "Moslem", "Buddhist" or
"Hindu". All of these words are honourable and we have to do good for
deserving it.
>If you believe in such "christianity" then why don't you advocate
>just forgiving the "two-faced" mother-fucker? I'm sure
>he's an >asshole but
>what's that to you...?
More insults from a follower (or an e-mail-address) of John Knight
using two insulting swearing words.
We never were impolite and only stated facts because moral urges and
demands it.
>your anti-Christian ranting, and the notion that you are going to
>re-establish patriarchy without ever considering the implications of
>Christianity
Anti-Christan ranting? Is John Knight considering him Christ himself
that criticizing John Knight is anti-Christian ranting? Another
blasphemy!
In fact I had opposed an intolerant atheist view asking for tolerance
both ways, asked that tolerance should also include Christian views.
As always facts are distorted and the pro-Christian defence is
misquoted by John Knight as allegedly anti-Christian whereas the
Christian was misquoted as atheist. Whenever JK starts bashing you can
rely on the opposite being true.
Even though banned from Patriarchy John Knight managed to forward
posts to his bashing lists for a series of muddy blackening. Such
forwardings are not allowed.
>Even so, to associate you and your type with the black plague
>is a gross understatement. (JK, backlash, 15827)
This is the way John Knight responds when I prove that he lies by
omitting important facts and misquoting out of context twisting the
sense. John Knight uses angry campaigns based on hatred, lies and mud.
It's not at all hatred to tell facts and to call a spide a spide and
hatred by its name.
It's not at all mud to honestly tell the truth and prove giving URL's
that elsewere muddy blackening is done.
I've documented hatred and mud-slinging of feminism and now I'm doing
the same with those hate-mongers who try to discredit us by
association.
>The contents of your idiotic personal threatenting posts
>to me have never been revealed only because you requested
>that they be held confidential.
>(threat of JK)
You can rely on that the opposite is true when John Knight makes angry
mud-slinging. He has threatened any opponent, even from within men's
rights and fathers' rights groups, whereas nobody threatened him. This
is always twisted into the opposite as the hateful black-white
thinking will easily allow any distortion of truth.
>The Jew responded:
> > Unfair, J.R. You're giving Patriarchy a bad name and oppose
> >its values.
>
Another silly way trying to denigrate the god effort of protecting the
reputation of Patriarchy.
John Knight has been spreading hatred since a long time; most cleverly
he
denies all facts presented using endless repetitions of the most
absurd and
extreme mud-slinging lies ever used against fathers' and men's rights
advocates; not even the most radical feminists could do that much
harm.
They themselves state that they spread hate - and deny it angrily and
mud-throwing whenever the slightest critique is mentioned.
That awfully hateful bashing stuff is clearly Nazi style as proven by
the many URLs mentioned. Any refutation has been dismissed as any
unfavourable fact is dismissed by JK, twisted entirely by mis-quoting
out of context and other methods of manipulation and mud-slinging.
As I was the only one daring to oppose the hate-spreading madness
publicly I got a series of angry, illogic and absurd mud throwing
attacks for weeks.
Others didn't dare the mud-slinging organization and advised to ignore
it; however, very obviously an increasing number of members and
activists didn't ignore the source of the hatred and posted on his
lists thus associating with it - that's moral suicide of the movement
and must be stopped.
The hatred proven by URL's given is the worst harm which can be done
to men's and fathers' advocates and to opposition to feminism. It
doesn't matter whether John Knight really believes it or whether it's
spread and associated with us with the purpose of ruining our
reputation. In any case this is much worse than anything feminists
could do. Before Nazis are effectively ignored and effectively
excluded from the movement no progress can be made. They have gone too
far on the road of evil and hatred to be ever welcomed back.
That they are spreading Nazis hatred has been proven by many URLs.
Whether they believe in it or do it for embarrassing us without
believing it doesn't matter.
Any association with Nazi stuff on our list would be my responsibility
and I would be considered criminal; besides, spreading such hatred is
morally criminal everywhere and JK is committing a huge moral crime
and it's blasphemy to pretend doing it in the name of God.
Association with Nazis is highly anti-patriarchal and incompatible
with membership on Patriarchy list. I regret that it's needed to
debate such matters but it's an urgent moral demand and a matter of
rotecting our reputation from harm. It's not possible to be both
member of Patriarchy and to post on John Knight's bashing list or
associate with such groups. (repeal, demand and any other from JK's
cross-posting list or run by him, fathersmanifesto site)
We need to clearly ignore them and to refuse any association nor give
them any attention or credibility.
It's not allowed to forward any post to John Knight or associates,
either.
Even though our archives are closed JK has moles or associates
forwarding posts including the Miss Understood letter from a
feminist. He misused it for posting and replying - omitting my comment
and reply - resulting in a very harsh letter and severe damage. We
have good arguments; I proved that feminism has been using much hatred
against men and family. No feminist could have given a good reply or
easily ignored the facts. Only John Knight's stupid bashing could
defeat us - and it did.
----Original Message Follows----
>From: bleustars@ To: manifesto@w...
>CC: deichmohle@h...
>Subject: email abuse
>Date: 10 Jul 2000 22:20:00 -0700
...
>I've already reported this for spam abuse but you might want to
>inform
>those that you unethically spammed my address out to,
>that I will be reporting each and every count of unsolicited
>email to ISP's and all other organizations.
...
>
>I will be reporting both of you to your ISP's for abuse as
>well as that I have reported you to my mail abuse already.
>Considering that one of your sites appears to endorse
>stoning people to death, I imagine the case will be taken
>seriously. For that matter, I will be reporting that site
>to human rights watch organizations for endorsing violence.
>Any emails recieved following this ethical violation will be
>forwarded on to the authorities.
Instead of the feminists being exposed as hate-spreading extremists,
instead of feminists being reported to hate-watch-groups and sites she
used JK's bashing to report our sites, ISPs etc. to hate-watch-groups
and for spam complaints. As long as John Knight is disturbing our work
no progress can be made; he destroys our best arguments in a way
feminists could never do on their own.
By the way, this has nothing to do with political correctness or
self-hatred; it's a moral demand of history. We once had an old and
good civilization in Germany; kings (Kaiser) were mostly far from
being despots, racists or nationalists as often described today in a
biased way; rather they protected Christians and non-Christians; back
in the mediaeval age a king (Kaiser) wrote a latin book on birds, was
speaking Arabic fluently and had - among others - Arabic advisers at
his court what was quite unusual for that time. At times I feel a bit
unhappy to see the long history reduced to twelve years of Nazi
terror. However, concerning that terror, I'll strictly oppose any kind
of association with it and I can't do otherwise either.
We have excellent arguments; those who resemble Nazis are the
feminists; they bash a sex, nazis bashed a race, communism bashed a
class. Many good arguments exist and they may not be spoilt by such a
madness.
Stating any link between any ethnic or Patriarchal religion with the
spreading of feminism is absurd, a persecution mania which would be a
concern for psychiatrists if those bashers were doing it in private
life instead of spreading hatred using political arguments.
A Church refused membership to a member of JK's bashing list advising
to seek professional help:
http://www.egroups.com/message/repeal19th/23544
>It is strongly suggested you seek out professional help, as it is
>possible someone in the mental health services may be able to help
>you to see the error of your ways.
Please don't associate with the bashing sites and their associates in
any way. They need to be ostracized.
Please make up your mind on which side you want to participate and I
hope that all of you'll choose to work with Patriarchy instead of
working with the bashers. It's not possible to do both and results in
unsubscription.
Please don't post nor forward any material from Patriarchy to their
lists nor associates.
Anything good which could possibly be done by them we can do better
without mixing it with horrible hatred spoiling good issues.
Sorry that I had to post on this topic again. If all of us ignore
those who spread hatred we hopefully won't need to mention it ever
again.
Let's concentrate on our issue - opposing feminism.
Wishing you much success in overcoming feminist ideology.
Jan
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