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Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven unto men, Matthew 12:31
The italics above mean that the word "Holy" was added by the KJV translators, so without their addition, this Scripture would appear as follows: Note that the word "spirit", without the word "Holy", appears to be a direct reference to the "spirit" in the "spirit of life" mentioned in Genesis 2:7 when Adam was formed.
AST (Anointed Standard Translation) version from : HBPH, P.O. Box 130, Kodak, TN 57764-0130
Ruach hakodesh is the mentality of separation
holy H6944 qo^desh ko'-desh From H6942; a sacred place or thing; rarely abstractly sanctity: - consecrated (thing), dedicated (thing), hallowed (thing), holiness, (X most) holy (X day, portion, thing), saint, sanctuary.
spirit H7307 ru^ach roo'-akh From H7306; wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions): - air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y).
Mat 12:31 (ASV) Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven. (BBE) So I say to you, Every sin and every evil word against God will have forgiveness; but for evil words against the Spirit there will be no forgiveness. (CEV) I tell you that any sinful thing you do or say can be forgiven. Even if you speak against the Son of Man, you can be forgiven. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven, either in this life or in the life to come. (Darby) For this reason I say unto you, Every sin and injurious speaking shall be forgiven to men, but speaking injuriously of the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men. (DRB) Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. (GB) Wherefore I say vnto you, euery sinne and blasphemie shalbe forgiuen vnto men: but the blasphemie against the holy Ghost shall not be forgiuen vnto men. (GNB) For this reason I tell you: people can be forgiven any sin and any evil thing they say; but whoever says evil things against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. (GW) So I can guarantee that people will be forgiven for any sin or cursing. However, cursing the Spirit will not be forgiven. (HOT)
(KJV) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. (KJV+) Wherefore1223, 5124 I say3004 unto you,5213 All manner3956 of sin266 and2532 blasphemy988 shall be forgiven863 unto men:444 but1161 the3588 blasphemy988 against the3588 Holy Ghost4151 shall not3756 be forgiven863 unto men.444 (KJVA) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. (LITV) Because of this, I say to you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men, but the blasphemy concerning the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men. (LXX) (RSV) Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. (WEB) Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. (Webster) Wherefore I say to you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven to men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven to men. (YLT) Because of this I say to you, all sin and evil speaking shall be forgiven to men, but the evil speaking of the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men.
socialbrat: Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost # Mt 12:31,32 Mr 3:28,29 Lu 12:10 is regarded by some as a continued and obstinate rejection of the gospel, and hence is an unpardonable sin, simply because as long as a sinner remains in unbelief he voluntarily excludes himself from pardon. socialbrat: Others regard the expression as designating the sin of attributing to the power of Satan those miracles which Christ performed, or generally those works which are the result of the Spirit’s agency.
(GNB) For this reason I tell you: people can be forgiven any sin and any evil thing they say; but whoever says evil things against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. (GW) So I can guarantee that people will be forgiven for any sin or cursing. However, cursing the Spirit will not be forgiven. (HOT)
(KJV+) Wherefore1223, 5124 I say3004 unto you,5213 All manner3956 of sin266 and2532 blasphemy988 shall be forgiven863 unto men:444 but1161 the3588 blasphemy988 against the3588 Holy Ghost4151 shall not3756 be forgiven863 unto men.444 (KJVA) Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy [against] the [Holy] Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. (RSV) Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. (WEB) Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men. (YLT) Because of this I say to you, all sin and evil speaking shall be forgiven to men, but the evil speaking of the Spirit shall not be forgiven to men.
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socialbrat: jub, are you saying Jesus is all 3?
jubileesings: God is all 3 loyallone_1: yes runningoutoftime: yes heartbeat_54_au: jubes doesn't that text mean that the way mary was made pregnat was by the holy spirit..but didn't say he was Jesus' dad Ladykrickett: so a nonflesh entity impregnated mary? an unmarried woman gave birth to the messiah? I dont understand that part jubileesings: heart?????? jubileesings: Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. magilla_4: John 15:26 26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: (KJV) Ladykrickett: wyoming me that is a very interesting point, something to think about heartbeat_54_au: ok well...i was just reading it..thats what it seems to me..and Jesus did call the Father, his father jubileesings: wrong, wyo------wrong understanding Angelic Earthling: heart, Jesus prayed to his father and his God runningoutoftime: They are three divine persons of a God head Angelic Earthling: heart, yes socialbrat: yep Heart jubileesings: heart---read John 14:17-19 Angelic Earthling: Jesus has the same God and father as I do socialbrat: yep angelic jubileesings: i will say when i get the mic jubileesings: i know them loyallone_1: more than that Angelic Earthling: heart....Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. magilla_4: YHWH IS SPIRIT Ladykrickett: with that point wyoming then noone could ever get to heaven if they were one entity wyoming_me2: matthew 13:32 Bohemianaus: good morning all wyoming_me2: exactly lady runningoutoftime: no angelic that isnt true runningoutoftime: you dont understand what that means jubileesings: was the God of the flesh, angelic thebatman: He was talking both as man and saviour socialbrat: God is not of flesh Angelic Earthling: running,lol you dont socialbrat: God is spirit Angelic Earthling: JESUS HAS A GOD Ladykrickett: I always had a question that bugged me, if jesus was god then why is he supposed to sit beside god on the right hand side of his throne Ladykrickett: beside god is not being god Paltalk: =================================== Please support our sponsors by clicking on banners. ========================================== Rachel_126: cause he is schizophrenic, Lady? wyoming_me2: lady, exactly how can they be seperate there? Ladykrickett: lol rachel puttputtalong: GOD Made man in the image of himself what does that mean Rachel_126: lolol socialbrat: NO rachel heartbeat_54_au: jubes but i don't get what u meant by the holy spirit being jesus' dad wyoming_me2: putt, that God is a man A Sinner: putt it means man is created in his image
A Sinner: adam eve
A Sinner: jesus
heartbeat_54_au: i never heard that first runningoutoftime: God spoke a part of himself into Mary. He didnt have sex with her runningoutoftime: John 1 puttputtalong: does that mean god looks like us runningoutoftime: he did that one time Bohemianaus: brb cuppa time runningoutoftime: that made him the first and only son Rachel_126: god help him if he does, puttputt puttputtalong: lol heartbeat_54_au: (((((((((boh baby)))))))))))) A Sinner: running..it says he is the first born of many brethern. how is that the only one?
heartbeat_54_au: <<scratching her head jubileesings: do you know what blasphemy against the Holy Ghost means? runningoutoftime: do you know what blasphemying means wyoming heartbeat_54_au: not coz of fleas either jubileesings: not as we loyallone_1: amen thebatman: Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Col 2:8,9 Rachel_126: i would say that our souls are a part of God, and that goes for Jesus too. For any human being. magilla_4: Isa 44:3 3 For I will pour water upon him that is thirsty, and floods upon the dry ground: I will pour my spirit upon thy seed, and my blessing upon thine offspring: (KJV) Rachel_126: but that doesnt make us GOD Ladykrickett: running out of time, god impregnated an unmarried woman that is fornication or it would be a bastard child runningoutoftime: I dont talk to jehovah witnesses benyonah1: At the baptism of Yeshua, all 3 manifestations were present socialbrat: running, why not? socialbrat: are you above them? loyallone_1: try in the late 60's A Sinner: running then you can answer my question i am not jw
Rachel_126: I have a soul, which is of God inside me, but that doesnt make me GOD, anymore than me sitting inside a car makes that car ME. heartbeat_54_au: <<thought mary was married loyallone_1: yep A Sinner: how can Jesus be the only one when it says he is the first born of many brethern?
jubileesings: not until after conception, heart thebatman: The word "Godhead" is translated from the Greek theotes which means "diety" heartbeat_54_au: oh ok jubes Bohemianaus: heartbeat, is that you from cc3? :) loyallone_1: yep Ladykrickett: heartbeat if she was married why would she get impregnated by someone or something other than her hubby? benyonah1: Yeshua being mikvahed, (baptised, the Father declaring "This is My Son, And the Spirit descending on Yeshua like a dove heartbeat_54_au: of course boh baby A Sinner: Rom 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate [to be] conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. |
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