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ENGLISH Derived From HEBREW?
 As English derived from Hebrew? The idiomatic likenesses between
ENGLISH and HEBREW were noticed by Tyndale when he translated the scriptures.
He said, "The properties of the HEBREW tongue aggreeth a thousand times
more with the ENGLISH than with the LATIN. The manner of speaking is in both
one, so that, in a thousand places, there needest not but to translate the
HEBREW word for word." Canon Lyson found 5000 HEBREW ROOTS in the
ENGLISH language (Our British Ancestors); other authorities put the figure
still higher. The Welsh is so much like the Hebrew that the SAME SYNTAX may
be used for both. The old SAXON language is said to be eighty percent HEBREW.
The oldest poems in the CELTIC language are in the "Book of the Dun
Cow" (1106 A.D.) and are "not unlike the poetical passages in the
Old Testament" (5:626, Encyc. Brit. 11th).
Isaiah 28:11 says, "For with stammering lips and another
tongue will he speak to this people" (Ephraim -- v.1). The Hebrew word
for "stammering" here is "LAEG" reading right to left but
English reads left to right so it would be pronounced GAEL in English. GAELIC
is not only the foundation of the English language, but is still spoken in
its primitive simplicity in many places in Wales, Scotland and the north of
Ireland. God does speak to us through the English Bible (28:13).
Judges 12:6 says the Ephraimites had trouble pronouncing the
aspirate "h" in Shibboleth. In Britain today, especially the
Cockney, can't pronounce it either. You still hear, "Don't be so oggish
with your horanges."
Speaking of the CELTIC use of the HEBREW rule of
"ASPIRATION. " Dr. Meyer says, "The assuming of the gutteral
aspiration on the part of the consonant under the influence of the preceding
vowel is the kind of change regularly adopted in IRISH, whereas in WELSH the
vocalization of the mute is now the general rule. It is now unquestionable,
however, from the gradual and even now only partial adoption of this rule in
WELSH, that the IRISH usage is the MORE ANCIENT of the two, as is still
further proved by its striking analogy with that of the DAGHESH LENE in
HEBREW." Davidson's Hebrew Grammar says, "The word Daghesh is from
a root which possibly expressed the idea of hardness. The sign of Daghesh is
a point in the bosom of a letter, and this poiint was used to indicate both a
lighter and a heavier kind of hardness. When it indicates the lighter
hardness it is called D. Lene, when the stronger, it is called D.
Forte."
You can take any SENTENCE in HEBREW and change it into
GAELIC, word for word, WITHOUT ALTERING the ORDER of a single word or
particle, and you will have the correct GAELIC idiom in every case. You
cannot do that with any other language in Europe. HEBREW has a rule which is
known as "ASPIRATION. " which applies to certain consonants when
they follow a vowel. It means the same consonant has two different sounds,
according to its position. GAELIC has the SAME rule and applies it in exactly
the same way. Even words borrowed from other languages are at once modifies
in sound according to the HEBREW rule of ASPIRATION. Does any other language
use this rule? We don't know of any.
Ancient MEDIA,where the ten tribes were taken captive, is
where the language of SANSKRIT developed. SANSKRIT has a more elaborate rule
for modifying the consonants, called "SANDHI" under which every
consonant may have as many as four distinct sounds, according to its
position.. Dr. Pritchard in his book The Eastern Origin of the Celtic Races
has shown that WELSH alone of all living languages, has preserved the rule of
SANDHI entire. He proves from this and many other similarities, including
words in such common use as the whole paradigm of the verb "to be,"
that the ancestors of the WELSH must have lived among the people who spoke
SANSKRIT. These people were ISRAELITES in MEDIA. He also shows that GOTHIC is
the link between ancient SANSKRIT and modern TEUTONIC.
The grammatical structure of WELSH and HEBREW is the same.
The VERB, for instance, occupies the SAME PLACE in the sentence of both
languages. The ROOTS of most WELSH words may be traced to HEBREW. Not only do
WELSH words themselves indicate a SIMILARITY; their VARIATIONS and INFLEXIONS
afford a much stronger proof of affinity. In the CELTIC, as well as the
HEBREW, the cases and gender of NOUNS are distinguished by AFFIXES and
PREFIXES. The PLURAL number of nouns likewise is often formed in a similar
manner in the CELTIC by adding "IN" to the singular. WELSH, like
HEBREW, has NO PRESENT TENSE. In the formation of sentences, and in the government
of words, in the AGREEMENT of the ADJECTIVE with the SUBSTANTIVE, in the
precedence of the latter, in the usual EXCEPTIONS to this rule, and in VERBS
PLURAL being GOVERNED by NOMINATIVES SINGULAR, the WELSH so exactly
corresponds with the HEBREW that the SAME SYNTAX might serve for both. Meric
Casaubon has taken some pains to show that the Saxon language has great
affinity with the Greek (De Ling Sac. 234-376).
All our modern unabridged dictionaries are inadequate with
regard to the origin or etymology of old ENGLISH words not derived from GREEK
or LATIN. Very much of GREEK and LATIN and other European languages can be
derived from HEBREW so the question becomes, "Did even those ENGLISH
words that are similar to GREEK and LATIN come from them, or their predecessor
HEBREW? These European languages are quite young compared with the old
HEBREW. Pages 67 to 72 of God's Covenant Man British Israel gives many
English roots from Hebrew.
The language of the learned bards, in which their poetry was
conposed, was HEBREW. Taliesin, a celebrated bard of the ancient Britons, who
was subsequently converted to Christianity, distinctly says, when speaking of
his own songs, "My lore has been declared in HEBREW, in the HEBRAIC
tongue have I sung." Dr. Thomas Stratton of Edinburgh said, "It
would be difficult to adduce a single article or form of construction in the
HEBREW grammar, but the same is to be found in WELSH, and there were many
whole sentences in both languages exactly the same in the very words."
The HEBREW word for Festival is "MOED." The annual
Scottish Gaelic musical festival is known as the "MOD." Another
HEBREW word for Festival is "CHAG." The Scotch and Gaelic dance is
called a "JIG." "HOORAY" or "HOORAH" comes from
the HEBREW #7321 word for "shout" "ROOAH." CAIRN is the
Irish pronunciation of the HEBREW QRN, meaning a "horn" which a
CAIRN resembles in appearance. From this root the name of the Irish and
Scottish hand-mill, the QUERN is derived; so called because the bottom stone
is, at the top, in form of a horn on which the upper stone revolves.
Professor Graves in 1855, speaking about an island at the mouth of the
Kenmare River in Ireland, said that "The obvious and certain derivation
of this name is Durs-ey, i.e. the 'Island of Dur,' DUR meaning water. The suffix
"EY" meaning "island" in HEBREW is found in many names of
British Islands such as Dalkey, Ireland's Eye, Lambay on the Irish coast,
Anglesey, Orkney, Eday, Sanday, Bressay, Housay, Neay, Oxney (Isle
of Oxen), Stokesay, Sheppey, Colonsay, Oronsay, Bardsey, Lundy, Guernsey,
Jersey, Alderney, Menai and Thorney. Numbers 336 and 339 of Strong's give EE
as the HEBREW sound for "island."Speaking before the British
Association in 1847, James C. Pritchard, M.D., F.R.S. declared that
Phoenician (HEBREW) writing was "the prototype of all the alphabets of
ancient and modern Europe, and probably representing the form of letters in
which the sacred Scriptures were originally written." He went on to say
that languages constantly borrow words from other languages, but they seldom,
if ever, borrow idioms. Consequently, idiomatic relationship is strong
presumptive evidence of ethnological identity. J. W. Donaldson said in 1851
to the British Association: "Now modern philology leads us to the
conclusion that the SEMITIC languages were originally built upon the same
system of monosyllabic roots as the SANSCRIT and GREEK." ("British
Association Reports," vol. 20, 1851, p.138 et seq.)
Notice the English "Rabbit" comes from the Hebrew
"ARNBiT" (hare), the R and A reversed, the "Adder" from
"ATaR" (to encircle), the "Kitten" from
"QuiToN" (a little one), "Camel" from "GeMeL"
(camel) and "Elephant" and "Antelope" from
"ELePH" (ox). "Steer" from "SHOOR" (ox).
"Giraffe" from "GaRaPH" (the neck), "Pig" from
"PiGGuL" (abomination) , "Snipe" from "INSOP"
(water-fowl) , the letters shuffled, "Dove" from "DOoB"
(to murmur).. "Sparrow" from "ZaPPOR" (sparrow).
"Pelican" from "PeLeG" (a stream). "Raven" and "Robin"
come from "OReB" (raven), "Crow" or "Rook" from
"QRAW" (to call), "Egret" from "EGORT" (a
crane), "Crane" from "GaRaN" (a throat), "Gull"
from "GUL" (to move in a circuit), "Swallow" from
"SaLO" (quail), "Osprey" from "PeRoS" (eagle),
the S put in front, "Eagle" from "AKuL" (a devourer).
"Fish" from "NePHeSH" (living
creature), "Crab" from "AQRaB" (Scorpion),
"Whelk" and "Leech," if we shuffle the letters, from
"ELQ" (to adhere), "Haddock" from HaDDoQ" (a thorn),
"Crayfish" from "ECVIS" (spider), "Wasp" from
"AZB" (pain), "Moth" from "MOT" (little),
"Worm" from "ORM" (naked). "Locust" from
"LoQueSH" (to consume), "Gnat" from "NaD" (to
fly), "Buzz" from "ZEBUB" (fly), "Shrub" from
"ZhRuB" (to limit), "Berry" from "PeRi" (fruit
in general), "Fruit" from "FRuCH" (to bud or blossom),
"Branch" from "BRaCH" (to reach across), "Bark"
from "BOOK" (to roll round), "Gum" from "GaM"
(to join together), "Ash" from "AZH" (tree),
"Elm" from "ALoN" (an oak), "Cypress" from
"GOPHeR" (wood of Noah's ark), "Holly" from
"HoLLeL"(pierces" ), "Juniper" from
"JuPeR" (sharp points), "Brush" from "BRuSH"
(Fir), "Cedar" and "Citrus" and "Nectar" from
QueTaR" (perfume), "Mistletoe" from "MaSL-TOH" (Lord
of misrule). "Crocus" from "CRoCuM" (Saffron herb),
"Nettle" from "NeTtO" (plant), "Squash" from
"QuaSHA" (Cucumber), "Onion" from "OIN" (eye),
"Cabbage" from "QaBaZH" (to gather together),
"Turnip"and "Parsnip" from "NiB" (a plant),
"Barley"from "BaR" (corn) plus "LaeH" (weary),
"Lemon" and "Melon" from RIMMON (Pomegranate) ,"Peach"
from "NePeCH" (citron) and "Raspberry" from
"RaSP" (a red-hot coal).. (For many more similarities, see English
Derived From Hebrew by R. Govett and Our British Ancestors by Canon
Lyson, as well as The Word by Prof. Isaac E. Mozeson. Photocopies of
the first two works can be purchased from this website. Visit our "Old
and Rare Religious Books" page.)
Why is Hebrew Read Right to Left?
Direction of writing HEBREW is RIGHT to LEFT while ENGLISH is
LEFT to RIGHT. Therefore critics argue that the English couldn't be
Israelites. But the Anglo-Saxon tongue was largely an UNWRITTEN one prior to
their settlement in Britain. Speaking of the "Alphabet and its
Origin" at a meeting of the British Association in 1872, John Evans,
F.R.S., F.S.A. says, "If the date which has been assigned to the famous
'Moabite stone,' of about 900 B.C., be correct, the correspondence in form
between the archaic GREEK letters and those on the stone raises a strong
presumption in favor of letters having been imported into Greece at the time
when the PHOENICIAN alphabet was in that stage of development in which it
occurs on the stone. Even the name of the alphabet preserves the memory of
its PHOENICIAN origin, for Alpha and Beta, the names of the two letters from
which the word is derived, are not really GREEK, but merely the Hellenized
form of the PHOENICIAN (i.e. HEBREW) Aleph and Beth. The same is the case
with the namesof all the other GREEK letters down to Tau.... It must,
however, be remembered, that the letters (of the Moabite Stone) are written
from RIGHT to LEFT, or in the same manner as HEBREW, and not as is the case with
us, from LEFT to RIGHT. In the early GREEK inscriptions it appears to have
been a matter of INDIFFERENCE in which DIRECTION the letters were placed. In
some the lines are alternately in EITHER DIRECTION; and this form of writing
was known as Boustrophedon, or that which turned BACKWARDS and FORWARDS like
an ox in ploughing... . The language of the HEBREW Scriptures may practically
be regarded as the same as the PHOENICIAN" ("British Association
Reports," 1872, Transactions, p.181 et seq.).
The Encyclopedia Britannica, 14th edition, vol.3, p.972,
article "Boustro- phedon," says: "A term descriptive of a
peculiar form of writing common among the early GREEKS. The direction of
writing was alternately RIGHT to LEFT and LEFT to RIGHT in horizontal lines,
or conversely, LEFT to RIGHT and RIGHT to LEFT. It was a transition between
the earlier RIGHT to LEFT writing and the later LEFT to RIGHT style. The term
was derived from two Greek words meaning "ox" and "to
turn," from the resemblance of the writing to the winding course taken
by oxen in ploughing."
Sir Charles Marston in The Bible Comes Alive says, "It
will be seen, from the archaeological evidence cited in these pages, that the
Israelites had, from the time of Moses onward, at least three alphabetical scripts.
First, what is known as the SINAI HEBREW; next, what is known as PHOENICIAN
HEBREW; and lastly, after the captivity in Babylon, what is known as the
ASSYRIAN HEBREW." (p.8). "So far as is known at present, it would
seem as though the SINAI HEBREW script usually reads from LEFT to RIGHT, like
our own writing, while the PHOENICIAN HEBREW reads from RIGHT to LEFT, like
modern Hebrew."
Professor Stephen Langdon, M.A., B.D., Ph.D., F.B.A.,
Professor of Assyriology at Oxford, wrote, in a letter to the "Times"
on 5th October, 1935, with reference to the SINAI HEBREW inscription on the
Lachish Red Bowl which had been published in that journal on 24th June, under
the title "Antiquities from Lachish" by J.L. Starkey: "The
inscription as published in the 'Times' should be INVERTED and read from LEFT
to RIGHT; for this was the original direction of writing the SINAITIC
script."
The Lacedemonians wrote GREEK from LEFT to RIGHT; yet they
were Israelites (1 Maccabees 12:6-23).
Was RUNIC Derived From HEBREW?
The early Saxon alphabet contained letters before its contact
with Greece or Rome. The old Runes are letters. The Saxons had terms of their
own, not borrowed from Latin, for alphabetical letters. Writing is expressed
in Saxon by a verb not of Roman origin. Saxons didn't derive their word for
"book" from "liber." However there are numerous points of
resemblance between the ancient British (or Runic) alphabet and those of the
ancient Hebrews and Phoenicians (Haigh's Conquest of Britain By The Saxons,
pp.33, 68, 88, 106, 107). The futhoric, or Runic alphabet, originated,
"clearly in times of primitive antiquity. The nomenclature of the
Phoenician-Hebrew alphabet is admitted to indicate its having originated in a
primitive state of society, and that of the futhoric has precisely the SAME
CHARACTER. Indeed it is remarkable how many of the objects named are COMMON
to BOTH, how IDENTICAL was the feeling which dictated in each case the choice
of the SYMBOLS.... the remarkable coincidence in both systems, commencing
with the names of domestic cattle." One of the earliest of these
futhorics consisted of SIXTEEN runes; so also did the early Phoenician. As in
Phoenician and Hebrew, so on Runic monuments in Norway and Sweden, writing is
found from was RIGHT to LEFT. In the symbols employed there are several
parallels. "ALEPH, the first character of the Hebrew and Phoenician
alphabet, was the head of an OX with its horns; FEOH, the first letter of the
Runic, with the same meaning, is but a variant of the same symbol, and corresponds
very nearly with the Samaritan character... . THORN, the third rune, is
certainly allied to DALETH, and as the latter is a "DOOR," so we
may regard the former (of which Thur is one of the variants) as thurn or
durn, with the same signification. The Phoenician-Hebrew letters KOPH and
RESCH symbolize and signify the "HEAD"; the Greek Rho is identical
with the primitive Resch; the Latin R and the Runic RAED differ from it only
in the addition of a beard; whilst the Runic WAEN, again, has the primitive
form.... The Phoenician CHETH or HETH has sometimes exactly the form of the
Anglo-Saxon HAEGEL; it means and represents an "ENCLOSURE" or
"PARK" and it is very probable that HAEGEL means the same, for
HAEGE is a "HEDGE" and HAEGIAN to "HEDGE" would admit of
a derivative noun HAEGEL.... The Phoenician-Hebrew LAMED is a
"WHIP," "ROD" or "GOAD"; the Runic LAGU has the
form of a "WHIP," the symbol of authority in Egyptian
hieroglyphics. Its meaning is "LAW." CALC has the form of a
THUNDERBOLT which characterizes Nin in the Assyrian sculptures, and when his
title "KHALK-halla, "brother of the lightning" and the name of
his father's sacred city KALK-ha are considered, we must conclude that the
word signified what the form of the character denotes. STAN has the form in which
the Phoenicians cast their pigs of TIN, and is stamped as a symbol on one so
formed, found in Cornwall, and now in Truro Museum; it is therefore extremely
probable that the word, like the Latin STANNUM, means "TIN."
Lastly, the Runic COPULATIVE sign has precisely the ancient form of VAU,
which means a "HOOK," and as such became in Hebrew the COPULATIVE
conjunction.
Thus we see that the PHOENICIAN alphabet and the Anglo-Saxon
FUTHORIC are derived from a common source; that the same feeling dictated the
choice of the symbols, which were to be used as letters in each case; and
that each letter represents the initial sound of the name of the
corresponding symbol. It must be remembered that the regular square Hebrew
type was a comparatively LATE invention, and that the early PHOENICIAN-HEBREW
forms were those familiar to the Israelites of the captivity of 721 B.C.
Comparing HEBREW-PHOENICIAN with RUNIC suggests that RUNIC consisted of old
HEBREW letters. There are many cases where the very SAME FORM is used for two
different letters in Hebrew and Runic.
Isaac Taylor, in his work on the RUNIC characters accounts
for the spread of RUNIC characters from the Black Sea to the Baltic by saying
that the Goths were formerly Getae. The RUNIC came to the North from Asgard
-- a place which Taylor identifies with the Gerrhos of Herodotus. This theory
supports the statement of Snorri Sturleson that Odin introduced written
characters into the North. Odin produced a "FUTHORIC" alphabet
whose RUNIC characters bear a strange likeness to the characters used by the
Greek colonists of the Black Sea littoral -- characters which can be traced
back as far as that coin of King Geta of the Edoni by the River Strymon in
Thrace, the identical coin that found its way into the bed of the River
Euphrates near Babylon. "Goth" is undoubtedly derived from
Guta-theod. Theod being old English for "a people." Goth therefore
means the "people of Guta." We met a "people of Gutium"
on the inscriptions of Cyrus. The Getae of Trajan's column have an appearance
and dress that is identical to the frescoes of the captive Goths from the
Constantinople column even though centuries apart.
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From: JPB
Date: 3/19/2009 4:05:45 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
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Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal
Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
Hahaha.
Teri, the polyglot of ignorance.
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From: Viva Veridad
Date: 3/18/2009 9:25:30 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
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Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal
Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
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Show me how close Hebrew is to Gaelic. I
studied Gaelic in school, and still remember it. So go on, genius,
show me how it's so close you don't even need a translation.
You've got to be the stupidest person on this planet.
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From: isaiah14
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To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:05:48 PM
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So it was the Hebrews that introduced Latin. Maybe this
is why Gaelic and Hebrew are so close that you don't even need a
translation. However, the roman catholic church still worships other
gods.
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From: Viva Veridad
Date: 3/18/2009 8:51:29 PM
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Cc: debunks@sbcglobal.
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Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal
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Latin Language
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Latin was brought to
Italy about 1000 BC by Indo-European immigrants from Northern
Europe. It began, as all languages do, as an isolated local tongue
of a small territory on the Tiber River called Latium. As the
people in Latium developed into an organized community, the city of
Rome was eventually founded in, according to legend, 753 BC.
In a little over a century, the Latin Romans would fall under the
sway of Etruscan Kings. The evolution of Latin in its early
development was therefore heavily influenced by these non-Indo-European
Etruscans. Over time, it was also affected by the Celtic migrations
and their dialects from Northern Italy and by the dominant regional
culture of the Greeks.
Latin would quickly spread over a larger part of Italy, in
direct correlation to Roman conquests. With the foundation of the
Roman Empire, a large portion of the western world would come to
speak various forms of Latin or have it intermingled with their own
tongues. While classical Latin developed in the city of Rome and
its environs, a spoken vernacular form of Latin was carried by the
Legions throughout the Roman provinces. With this development, the
use of Latin in these regions would supercede the pre-Roman
dialects of Italy, Gaul and Spain. However, some expressions of the
original languages remained intact and, once mixed with the spoken
Latin, gave birth to new languages known as the Romance languages.
Only the deeply rooted Greek language would resist Latin
interjection and continue to be spoken in its original form.
Latin also survived the fall of the Roman Empire. As the
centuries passed it continued to be an international language of
the educated and social elite, accompanying the modified tongues of
the common people. The sole language of the Catholic Church was
Latin, and all scholarly, historical, or scientific work was
written in it. The replacement of the Romans itself as an
international authority, with that of the church, was a key factor
in keeping the language alive and in practice. When the Middle Ages
ended, end the west experienced a cultural Renaissance, interest in
classical Latin as a means of artistic and literary expression
grew. During and after this period of re-birth, forms of Latin were
even transplanted to the Western Hemisphere. Today, the people of
Mexico, Central America, and South America are called Latins or
latinos.
The Latin language is the bedrock of the language of Western
Civilization. The Romance Languages of Spain, France, Italy,
Portugal, and Romania developed from a hybrid version of spoken
Latin and native tongues. Each would also be influenced in turn by
other tongues, such as Slavic, Norse and many Germanic dialects.
Without Latin, very few of the tongues we speak today would be
possible or recognizable in their current forms.
Latin today may be a dormant language but it remains an
important piece of our linguistic puzzle. The use of Latin for
names of places, anatomy, biology and others still dominates
several scientific and medical fields. People all over the world
are studying Latin with enthusiasm and energy. It, of course, is
still alive and well within the Vatican and the Roman Catholic
Church. It is gaining new popularity among modern Italians and
Romans; and conventions of Latin speaking people are becoming a
regular occurrence in Europe. Latin is anything but a dead
language.
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From: isaiah14
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To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:29:02 PM
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Latin was taught in school, but it was a dead language
when it was taught. The roman catholic church wants you to believe that
it was one of the original languages. The roman catholic church has
corrupted the truth.
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From: Viva Veridad
Date: 3/18/2009 8:17:29 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
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Cc: debunks@sbcglobal.
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Latin was and is a sacred "dead" language,
but "dead" only inasmuch as it not in use. However, up
to about 50 years ago it was being taught in schools of a higher
caliber than the one you went to, so you would have no idea or knowledge
about the history of the Latin language. Potential scholars would
study Latin as a mandatory subject, especially if they needed to
translate works in Latin which had been written by the
intelligentsia.
But I don't expect you have to have any knowledge
about classical education, for which Latin was always a requirement.
Take a lowly herb and you will find it categorized under its
Latin name as well as its generic name. Latin was used
extensively in medicine, in law - just look at a Legal/Latin dictionary!
I could go on. This very "dead" language was very
much alive in its uses throughout the world.
But that's something the ignorant and unschooled
would know nothing about.
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From: isaiah14
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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:37:38 PM
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Latin was never a sacred language. It was
practically a dead language in Jesus's time just like it was totally
dead in the 60's. You desire to kill the true Christians because you
are being led by the Jews.
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From: Viva Veridad
Date: 3/18/2009 3:17:34 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons:
Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
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"I guess you don't know nothing about
Latin then."
Your eloquence is so awe-inspiring! LOL!
In fact, I do know quite a lot about Latin.
Yes, it was the 60s when it was turfed out as a sacred
language.
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From: isaiah14
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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 3:23:54 PM
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I guess you don't know nothing about Latin then.
In the mid to late 60's it was still being used.
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From: Viva Veridad
Date: 3/18/2009 1:36:59 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons:
Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
You
must be pretty ancient if you remember the Latin..
That's
been done away with for at least 58 years or so.
From: isaiah14
<isaiah14@sbcglobal. net>
To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:42:44 PM
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal
Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
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I forgot for a reason. I don't need the roman
catholic church. It doesn't do me any good. However, I still
remember the Latin, which didn't make it a whole lot of
sense. Why didn't they use English? Tsk Tsk, I am very glad I
am no longer in the roman catholic church. I would have never met
Jesus Christ..
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From: Viva Veridad
Date: 3/18/2009 12:35:41 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons:
Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
You
know NOTHING about Catholicism, Terry. Absolutly
nothing. And if you ever did, then in the last 40 years
you've forgotten everything you ever half-learned.
It's
actually incredible just how much you have forgotten.
From:
isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal. net>
To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal
Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
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I know all about the roman catholic church. I
was there for over 25 years until I found the truth. Jesus Christ
is the truth, the life, and the way, no one can come to the
father but by him. You cannot work your way into heaven,
salvation is a free gift. This is why you won't have a seat
in God's kingdom. You are the one that is pathetic. All the
lies your telling and all the false doctrine.. LOL.
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From: Viva
Veridad
Date: 3/18/2009 8:38:21 AM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Cc: debunks@sbcglobal.
net
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and
His Wife
You
just got lazy, didn't understand what Catholicism was all about.
Then you found the easy way out - a born again church that
didn't demand you do one darn thing for your salvation. The
FREE LUNCH. The RESERVED SEAT IN HEAVEN.
Well,
think again, chum. God had harsh words about his fallen
creation. "By the sweat of your brow..."
Remember. We're supposed to work by the sweat of our
brow? We're supposed to keep the commandments. The beatitudes?
You can never tell me what they are, because you don't have
a clue! We're supposed to give alms to the poor, clothe the
naked, visit the sick and those in jails. Yes, corporal
works of mercy. But not you! You just want the FREE
LUNCH. Sit around, eat and drink, make merry - if you have
anyone to make merry with! - and wait for your RESERVED SEAT IN
HEAVEN, which doesn't exist, because you've done nothing to earn
it. You've just been a JUDAS, betrayed Jesus and his
church, just like Judas did.
You
are pathetic. Free lunch ambulance chaser!
From:
isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal. . . net>
To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:52:14 AM
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal
Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
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I gained a relationship with Jesus Christ
since I left the roman catholic church like
thousands have. I just got sick and tired of the
paganism.
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From: Viva
Veridad
Date: 3/17/2009 10:11:52 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and
His Wife
Since
he lost his IQ on leaving Catholicism, he wouldn't be able to
understand what you've written, Joseph.
The light is on but no one's home.
From: JPB
<debunks@sbcglobal. net>
To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:23:53 PM
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal
Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
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You
are misinformed, fella -
Constantine,
who was now lord of the western division
of the Roman empire, and Licinius, who was sole ruler
of the east, promulgated a decree, granting toleration to
all religions. This was the first imperial decree promulgated
in favour of the Christians : in 3 1 3 it was
followed by the edict of Milan, which secured to the
Christians in particular the free exercise of their
religion. A series of laws, during the following year,
bestowed upon them many and great advantages.
Constantine freed all ecclesiastical persons from the
burden of the public offices of the state, and from the
payment of all personal taxes : he confirmed the judicial
authority of the bishopsabolished the laws against
those who lived in celibacypermitted churches to
receive presents and legaciesenforced the observance
of the Sundaymaintained many Churches and ecclesiastics,
and erected many temples to the honour of
the true God. But, in the meantime, Licinius, who
beheld in Constantine a dangerous rival, and an abettor
of the Christians, persecuted the faithful within his own
dominions. The war which in 323 broke out between
the two emperors, was, in reality, a religious war.
Licinius fell in the contest, and with him fell Paganism.
The conqueror, under whose sway the whole
empire of Rome now lay united, declared himself, in
the most unequivocal manner, a professor of the
Christian religion ; and expressed his desire and his
hope that all his subjects would imitate his example.
He caused his sons to be educated as Christians, and
placed Christians in the most important offices of the
Lips. 1696; Libanii Orationes, Ed. Reiske, Altenburg, 1791;
Themistii
Orationes, Ed. Harduin, Paris, 1684.
Fr........ Gusta, Vita di Constantino IL Grande, Fulij2;no,
1786 ; J. E. F.
Manso, Leben Constantin's de Gr. Breslau, 1817; (De la
Bli'terie)
Vie de 1' Einpereur Julitii, Amst. 1735, 2 vols.; Jondot,
Histoire de
r Emp. Julien, Paris, 1817. 2 vols.; A. Neander, Ueber den
Kaiser
Julianus und sein Zeitalter (The Emperor Julian and his
Times),
Leipzig, 1812 ; Riidiger, Do Statu et Conditione Paganorum,
sub Imperatoribus
post Constantinum Magnum, Vratislav, 1825.
PERIOD THE SECOND. 3
empire : to the ancient capital of the dominions of
heathen Rome, he opposed a Christian metropolis, at
Byzantium, now called, from him, Constantinople : he
paused not in his attacks upon paganism, which he
even designated as a superstition of by-gone times.
He commanded the heathen temples, in many places,
to be closed, or to be converted into churches ; in other
cities they were destroyed, and the idols of the gods
broken into pieces or removed. He employed every
means within his power to induce the idolaters to
embrace the new faith ; and it appears that towards the
close of his reign, he published an univers^d prohibition
which forbade the public worship of the gods
:
the law, however, was never enforced. But it must
strike us with wonder when we learn, that, with all this
zeal, Constantine should have continued out of the
Church until the end of his life. He received baptism
during his last illness, in the year 337, at a castle near
Nicomedia.
His three sons, Constantine,
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From: isaiah14
Date: 3/17/2009 6:01:10 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod
and His Wife
Sorry, the roman catholic church has
deceived you into believing false doctrine.
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Meet the first Pope!!
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Insignia of
Pagan and Papal Rome.
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Pope Constantine
I (306 337).
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The Bible Code!!
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Pope Constantine was born Flavius Valerius
Constantinus at Nis on Feb. 27, 280, in what is now Serbia,
son of the commander Constantius Chlorus (later Constantius
I) and Helena a camp follower and Balkan barmaid.
Constantius became co-emperor in 305.
Following the example of his father and
earlier 3rd-century emperors, Constantine in his early life
was a solar henotheist, believing that the Roman sun god,
Sol, was the visible manifestation of an invisible
"Highest God" (summus deus), who was the
principle behind the universe. This god was thought to be
the companion of the Roman emperors. Constantine' s adherence
to this faith is evident from his claim of having had a
vision of the sun god in 310 while in a grove of Apollo in
Gaul.
As a youth Constantine was sent to the palace
of the infamous Roman Emperor Diocletian to learn the
tricks of the trade as they say. At that time Christianity
was growing by leaps and bounds throughout the Empire. The
Christians were outstanding citizens but the Emperors saw
them as a threat to the empire for ONE reason: they
refused to acknowledge the divinity of the Emperors or call
Caesar "lord."
During the early days of Rome the people hated
kings. Rome was a Republic. This human divinity idea came
from the Pharaohs. Egyptian rulers were considered
gods by their subjects and when Julius Caesar conquered
Egypt he brought this idea back to Rome..
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Emperor
Diocletian (245 313).
Emperor
Diocletian began the last great pagan persecution of the Church
in which most of the history of the early Church was
destroyed!!
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Beginning
in the year 303, the pagan Roman Empire made one last
great attempt to exterminate Christianity. This
persecution, under the Emperor Diocletian, began on the
23rd of February (303 A.D.), that being the day the Roman
Terminalia was celebrated, and the cruel pagans boasted
that they would finally put a termination to Christianity
Diocletian
began by sacrificing to the pagan gods to make his war
against the Christians a success:
"
. . . In the first, while Diocletian was sacrificing in
public, the chief interpreter of the victims' organs
reported that he could not read the future in them
because of the hostile influence of Christians standing
around. Diocletian burst into a rage, insisting that all
in his court should offer sacrifice, and sent out orders
to his army to follow suit." (Ramsey MacMullen, Constantine,
p.24). "
The
local demons having failed him, Diocletian then consulted
the most powerful shrine of augury and divination in the
world. This was the Oracle of Apollo in Delphi, Greece.
His priests brought him back more bad news: it quit
working too....This caused him to fly into an
uncontrollable rage and he ordered the holocaust to
commence immediately:
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Monument to the power of the Risen Christ!!
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Oracle
of Apollo in Delphi, Greece, stopped working after the
Resurrection of Christ. Apollo was another name for Sol Invictus
or the sun god.
All
over the world, shrines of divination like this stopped
working after the Resurrection of Christ.
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Fire,
racks, swords, wild beasts, crosses, poison and famine
were made use of to kill the Christians. Invention was
exhausted to devise tortures against those who would not
deny Christ and acknowledge Caesar as "lord"
and burn incense to his image.
The
lives of Christians during that time consisted of
persecution above ground and prayer underground. This
is know in history as the era of the martyrs.
The
main target of the pagans was the New Testament . . . And
the histories of Christ. All of the great books
portraying the Mount of Olives as the site of the
Resurrection were systematically
destroyed.
Even
the books written by pagan authors were destroyed because
they would reveal a lot about the doctrines and practices
of the Apostolic church.
There
were millions of Christians and many of them had copies
of the New Testament. Only about 5,000 manuscripts have
survived from that time and the oldest is dated around
350 A.D.
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The blood of the
martyrs was the seed of the Congregation.
By being
"faithful unto death" Christians were defeating
paganism in the Roman Empire.
From
303 313, Christian bodies and books were
systematically destroyed during this last great pagan
persecution.
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Eusebius
tells us that there were innumerable histories of the Life
of Christ written by the Christians. Only one
account survived this persecution. If any had survived we
would have known exactly when Jesus was born.......
"Hence
by recent authors also, there are, as I have said, demonstrations without number,
which we may carefully read, very able and clear, written
in argumentative form in defense of our doctrine, and not a
few commentaries carefully made upon the sacred and
inspired Scriptures, showing by mathematical demonstrations
the unerring truthfulness of those who from the beginning
preached to us the word of godliness" (Preparation
for the Gospel, Bk. I, ch. III, p.7.)
Rome was
systematically destroying Christian history so that the
next generation of believers would have no idea what their
parents believed. Jesus said that the Christians were
the salt of the earth and the light of the world:
"Ye
are the salt of the earth . . . Ye are the light of the
world" (Matthew 5:13-14).
With
the removal of the salt and light through persecution, the
world became a very dark place. This is what St. Paul was
referring to when he refers to the let or hindrance that
was holding back the manifestation of the Antichrist
system:
"Let
no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not
come, except there come a falling away first, and
that man of sin be revealed the son of perdition . . . and
now ye know what witholdeth that he might be revealed in
his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:
only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of
the way (II Thessalonians 2:3-6)."
Even
Eusebius was imprisoned and it is a miracle that any of his
writings have survived. His close friend and mentor
Pamphilus was martyred during this time...
Pope
Constantine changed the PLACE of the Resurrection of
Christ!!
Constantine
knew from experience that the great power of the Christian
message came from the preaching of the Resurrection of
Christ. Immediately upon assuming the purple, he set about
to insidiously undermine and then eliminate this cardinal
doctrine.
For 300
years the Christians were accustomed to visit the Mount of
Olives in Jerusalem and they came back filled with zeal for
their Risen Lord.
They also
saw the total ruins of the Temple in exact fulfillment of
the words of Jesus. This made them invincible to all
the threats and arguments of the pagans. Constantine set
about to change this:
"Believers
in Jesus all congregate from all parts of the world....that
they may worship at the MOUNT OF OLIVES opposite the
city......TO THE CAVE that is shown there" (Eusebius, Proof
of the Gospel, Bk. VI. ch. 18)."
The
Empty Tomb on the Mount of Olives
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The
Mount of Olives overlooking Jerusalem was the site of the
death and Resurrection of Christ.
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The Resurrection
of Christ is the great central Doctrine of Christianity.
It is the ROCK and pillar that support the entire
structure. St. Paul said:
"And if Christ be not risen, then is
our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain (I Cor..
15:14)."
And again:
"But now is Christ risen from the
dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. For
since by man came death, by man also came the
resurrection of the dead, For as in Adam all die, even so
in Christ shall all be made alive (I Cor. 15:20-22)."
In the
year 326, Constantine sent his mother Helena to Jerusalem
to discover the spot that he had foreseen as the
place of Jesus' Resurrection. This was the site of the
temple of Venus on the West side of Jerusalem. He ordered
the temple torn down and a church constructed on the
site. This is called the church of the "Holy"
Sepulchre to this day...
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Church
of the Holy Sepulchre, former site of the Temple of
Venus
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Church
of the Holy Sepulchre, former site of the Temple of
Venus.
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In the
year 326, Constantine sent his mother Helena to Jerusalem
to discover the spot that he had foreseen as the
place of Jesus' Resurrection. This was the site of the
temple of Venus on the West side of Jerusalem. He ordered
the temple torn down and a church constructed on the
site. This is called the church of the Holy Sepulchre to
this day.
This is
the WRONG location because it was located within the city
of Jerusalem and Jesus died outside the city walls.
Since ALL
the books on the correct time of Jesus' birth were
destroyed, Constantine was able to pull this off.
Dec. 25 was the BIG day for the pagans. It was the Winter
Solstice and was named Dies Natalis Invicti or The
Birthday of the Unconquered SUN.
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Pope Constantine changed the TIME of the
Resurrection of the Lord!!
In 325,
he presided over the Council of Nicaea which changed the
time of the Lord's Resurrection to the Sunday following the
Passover. This was to coincide with the old Roman festival
of Easter which usually fell about a week after Passover when the moon rose after
midnight.
Pope Constantine changed the TIME of our
Saviour's birth to Dec. 25
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Town of
Bethlehem where Jesus was born in the Springtime
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Another
great destination for the Christians was the town of
Bethlehem where Jesus was born:
"They
(prophets) foretold the wondrous fashion of his birth from
a Virgin, andstrangest of allthey did not omit to name
Bethlehem the place of his birth, which is today so
famous that men still hasten from the ends of the earth
to see it, but shouted it out with the greatest clearness
(Eusebius, The Proof of the Gospel, Bk. 1, p.
2)."
Since
ALL the books on the correct time of Jesus' birth were
destroyed, Constantine was able to pull this off.
Dec. 25 was the BIG day for the pagans. It was the Winter
Solstice and was named Dies Natalis Invicti or The
Birthday of the Unconquered SUN.
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Pope Constantine united Christianity and
State
After
changing the TIME and PLACE of the birth and Resurrection,
the third strike of Satan against the Gospel was the
marrying of this false Christianity with the State.
He made Christianity the State religion or united
church and state. This was the last straw marrying the
pure bride of Christ with the dirty politics of the Roman
Empire.
Jesus had
said long ago to another representative of pagan Rome named
Pontius Pilate:
"My
kingdom is not of this world: If my kingdom were of this
world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be
delivered to the Jews: but now my kingdom is not from hence
(Matt... 18:36)."
Constantine
knew plenty about fighting. He was a rough-neck Roman
soldier all his life!!
Pope Constantine entered the church though
baptism.
Prior to
this time, a person entered the church through conversion
or the new birth. Baptism followed salvation.
Constantine waited until just before his death to be
baptized because he believed that baptism washes away sins
and makes one a Christian. To this very day, all his
followers have used that same door:
"Holy
Baptism is the basis of the whole Christian life, the
gateway to life in the Spirit (vitae spiritualis ianua),
and the door which gives access to the other sacraments.
Through Baptism we are freed from sin and reborn as sons of
God; we become members of Christ, are incorporated into the
Church and made sharers in her mission: "Baptism is
the sacrament of regeneration through water in the
word." (Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1997,
Part Two, Article 1.)
In the 30
years that Constantine reigned, the Roman Catholic system
was fully developed. The 2 big festivals: Christmas and
Easter with entry through baptism instead of the new birth,
union of church and state, and the false time and place of
the Lord's birth and Resurrection have continued right down
to our time.
The Great historian Eusebius hit the nail
right on the head. He said in coded language that only the
believers could understand that this empire of Constantine
was the culmination of the 4 heathen Empires of antiquity
namely, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and that
it was the FINAL ANSWER of Satan to the Gospel of
Christ and it would remain unchanged until Christ's Second
Coming!!
Writing
of the 30th anniversary of the ascension of Constantine he
pays particular attention to the number 10 and the number 30:
"Again
the triad combined with the decade, and performing a
threefold circuit of tens, produced that most natural
number, thirty. For as the triad is in respect to units, so
is the number 30 in respect to tens...."(Eusebius, Oration
to Constantine)....
Eusebius associated
the number 30 with the MONTH having 30 days and the MOON
was created to rule the MONTH and the NIGHT...... So this
empire of Constantine had much to do with darkness and the
NIGHT:
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What Eusebius
was telling the initiated who knew the Scriptures was that
1 plus 2, plus 3, plus 4 equals 10. In other words, right
before their eyes, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome were
culminating in this Empire of Constantine which would exist
until the Second Coming of Christ!!
"For
the unit is the tenth of ten, and ten units make up a
decade, which is itself the limit, the settled goal and
boundary of units; it is that which terminates the infinity
of number the term AND END of units" (Eusebius, Oration
to Constantine)."
And that
Constantine' s Empire was not the Empire of Christ . . .
but was the 10 toed, 10 horned evil empire of the
book of Daniel and Revelation. This was the beginning of
the evil Empire that John saw in a vision over 200 years
earlier:
"And
I stood upon the sand of the sea, and I saw a beast rise up
out of the sea, having seven heads and TEN horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his heads the
name of blasphemy (Rev. 13:1)."
This was the
same ten horns that Daniel saw upon the Roman wild beast
over 500 years earlier:
"After
this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast,
dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly, and it had
great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and
stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse
from all the beast that were before it; and it had TEN horns (Daniel 7:7)"
The
number 10 also stands for apostasy, division, wars and
captivity. Shortly after King Solomon built the Temple in
Jerusalem, he became involved in Baal worship or sun
worship and he lost 10 tribes out of the 12 tribes of
Israel:
"And
it came to pass at that time when Jeroboam went out of
Jerusalem, that the prophet Ahijah the Shilonite found him
in the way; and he had clad himself in a new garment; and
they were alone in the field. Ahijah caught the new garment
that was on him and rent it in pieces: And said to
Jeroboam, Take thee TEN
pieces: for thus saith the Lord, the God of Israel, Behold
I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and
will give TEN tribes to
thee" (I Kings 11:29-31).
Jeroboam
was no better than Solomon because he set up 2 golden
calves: one at Dan in the north and another at Bethel in
the south in order to keep the people from going to
Jerusalem to worship:
"Whereupon
the king took council, and made two calves of gold, and
said unto them, It is too much for you to go up to
Jerusalem: behold thy gods, O Israel which brought thee up
out of the land of Egypt. And he set the one in Dan and the
other in Bethel" (I Kings 12:28-29)
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Dan and
Bethel became the 2 new rival centers to Jerusalem.
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In the
Old Testament Dan and Bethel became the 2 new rival
worship centers to Jerusalem answering to Rome and
Constantinople in the New Testament times.
These
are the so-called 10 lost tribes of Israel who went into
captivity in Assyria about 250 years later. Only the
tribe of Benjamin remained with Judah.
Pope
Constantine set up a new Capital about 1,000 miles to the
east. This is called the "Orthodox" church to
this day. Thus Rome and Constantinople became 2 new rival
"church" headquarters in opposition to
Jerusalem.
Rome and
Constantinople became the 2 new "church"
headquarters! !
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Rome and
Constantinople became the 2 new "church" headquarters
instead of Jerusalem.
When
Constantinople fell to the Turks (1453) the Orthodox church
moved to Russia and the bitter competition continues right
down to our own day with the Vatican enlisting the help of
the U.S. military to fight her ancient rival. That is what Fatima is all about.
Editor's Notes
In the
Old Testament, Satan's religion was called BAAL worship or
sun worship. Baal was placed in charge of sun worship while
his deputy Allah was in charge of moon worship. He was the
main opponent of Moses when he led the chosen people out of
Egyptian bondage.
BAAL
fought against Joshua when he tried to bring the chosen
people into the promised land. Baal fought against Samson,
Gideon, Deborah, David, Jehoshaphat, Elijah, Ezra,
Nehemiah, and ALL the Old Testament saints.
BAAL was
totally defeated by the Resurrection of the Lord Jesus
Christ on the Mount of Olives in 33 A.D., but he refused to
admit defeat and moved to Rome to carry on the battle
against God's New Testament chosen people the TRUE
Christians.
We will
now meet 3 key people that Satan used to establish his
religion at Rome in order to destroy true Christianity.
The first
one was a depraved high priest of the temple of Baal in
Syria named Elagabalus. He was made Emperor of Rome while a
boy of 14.
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Emperor Elagabalus (218222)
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Elagabalus
was high priest of Baal in Syria and later became Roman
Emperor. He established the cult of Sol Invictus Elagabal
in Rome....... He was a depraved monster even by Roman
standards and was finally murdered by his troops.
"Emperor
Elagabalas, the crowned high priest of Sol Invictus,
sacrificed to the sun god every morning. During these
daily rites, for which he stood in front of the altar,
the amplissimuss sacedos wore typically Syrian
robes ornamented with precious stones. It may be that he examined the entrails
of young children which had been sacrificed....."(Gaston
H. Halsberghe, The Cult of Sol Invictus), p.85)
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The
second person in this demonic trinity was Emperor Aurelian:
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Emperor Aurelian (270275)
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Emperor
Aurelian considered Sol Invictus Elagabal too
foreign or Eastern for Roman tastes and so he Romanized
it by dropping the Elagabal. He established a college of
high priests which later evolved into the Roman College of
Cardinals which elects every pope.
He made
Sol Invictus the state religion of the Roman Empire. He
was also murdered by his soldiers.
"....
Therefore Aurelian established a new college of high
priests, under the name Pontifices Dei Solis."
(The Cult of Sol Invictus, p. 155).
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Pope
Constantine is the last in our unholy trinity. He united
this pagan Sol Invictus cult with Christianity or
what was left of Christianity after the last great pagan
persecution:
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Pope Constantine
I (306337)
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"But
it was during the rule of Constantine the Great that the
cult of Deus Sol Invictus reached extraordinary heights,
so that his reign was even spoken of as a Sun
Emperorship. Constantine was the personification of Deus
Sol Invictus on earth, and could consider the statue of
the sun in the Forum bearing his name as a statue of
himself" (The Cult of Sol Invictus, p. 167)
The
great church historian Eusebius called this man the COUNTERFEIT COIN.
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"But
it was during the rule of Constantine the Great that the
cult of Deus Sol Invictus reached extraordinary heights, so
that his reign was even spoken of as a Sun Emperorship.
Constantine was the personification of Deus Sol Invictus on
earth, and could consider the statue of the sun in the
Forum bearing his name as a statue of himself" (The
Cult of Sol Invictus, p. 167)
The great
church historian Eusebius called Constantine the COUNTERFEIT COIN..
Dies
Natalis Invicti
or the birthday of the Unconquered Sun was the BIG day for
this cult. Constantine called this day (Dec. 25) the
birthday of Christ. None of these 3 devils lived to a
ripe old age and Constantine died at age 57 most probably
from the effects of poison.
Some of
the works of the great church historian Eusebius are
available online at the Christian Classics Ethereal Library. Go
to the site and do a word search. You will not find Preparation
for the Gospel or Proof of the Gospel there. In
those books, written before Pope Constantine, Eusebius used
the titles: Jesus, Lord Jesus and the Lord Jesus Christ
frequently. After the ascension of Pope Constantine however
you will not find the Name JESUS any more. He used titles
like God, Sovereign, Most High, etc., etc. which could be
used by pagans to refer to their gods. Eusebius knew that
the real Jesus was excluded from this 10 toed evil Empire of
Constantine.
Vital Links
Eusebius and Constantine
The Vatican against the Orthodox Church by Avro Manhattan
The Four Heathen Empires
References
Alföldi,
Andreas (Andrew). The
Conversion of Constantine and Pagan Rome. Oxford,
1948 and 1969.
Eusebius
Pamphili, (260 340), Preparation
for the Gospel, Proof of the Gospel, Ecclesiastical
History, Life of Constantine, Oration to Constantine,
etc., etc. Grand Rapids, Baker Book House, 1981.
Baynes,
Norman, H., Constantine the Great and the Christian
Church, London, 1934.
Burckhardt,
Jacob, The Age of Constantine the Great, Pantheon
Books Inc., New York, 1949.
Halsberghe,
Gaston, H., The Cult of Sol Invictus, E...J.. Brill,
Leiden, The Netherlands, 1972.
Kee,
Alistair, Constantine Versus Christ: The Triumph of
Ideology, SCM Press, London, 1982.
Martin,
E. L. Secrets of Golgatha, ASK Publications,
Portland, Oregon, 2000.
MacMullen,
Ramsey, Constantine, The Dial Press, New York,
1969....
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-------Original Message----- --
From: Debunks
Date: 3/17/2009 7:28:42 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod
and His Wife
Wrong again. You see, genius, we
have the extensive writings of the Church fathers predating
Constantine' s conversion by 400 years. So, I
suggest you hone up on your reading, fella.
Constantine' s conversion was wrought by Jesus Christ Himself
- and Constantine was neither a Bishop nor a Pope - he was a
secular Emperor who finally brought to an
end 400 years of violent Jewish-Pagan persecution of the
early Church.
Constantine' s act of conversion
resulted in the proclamation of the Edict of Toleration.
He was not a theologian, and in fact supported the Arian
heresy for some time prior to his baptism just before his
death.
You really are ignorant.
-------Original Message----- --
From: isaiah14
Date: 3/11/2009 8:52:08 AM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod
and His Wife
No, the catholic church is not a
Christian church. It is apostasy. It was never founded by
Jesus Christ. It was founded by Constantine the Great.
It is a combination of Christianity and paganism.
Christianity was founded by Jesus Christ... The roman catholic
church is actually an off shoot of Protestantism.
-------Original Message----- --
From: Debunks
Date: 3/11/2009 2:39:07 AM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod
and His Wife
Well,
the Catholic Church 'is' a Christian Church - the very first,
actually..
All
protestant denominations are mere offshoots of the Mother
Church, having a common origin in the
16th
century. The following may be of interest -
How Old Is Your Church?
If
you are a Lutheran, your religion was founded by Martin
Luther, an ex-
monk of the Catholic Church, in the year 1517.
If
you belong to the Church of England, your religion was
founded by King
Henry VIII in the year 1534 because the Pope would not grant
him a divorce
with the right to remarry.
If
you are a Presbyterian, your religion was founded by John
Knox in
Scotland in the year 1560.
If
you are a Protestant Episcopalian, your religion was an
offshoot of the
Church of England founded by Samuel Seabury in the American
colonies in the
17th century.
If
you are a Congregationalist, your religion was originated by
Robert
Brown in Holland in 1582.
If
you are a Methodist, your religion was launched by John and
Charles
Wesley in England in 1744.
If
you are a Unitarian, Theophilus Lindley founded your church
in London in
1774.
If
you are a Mormon (Latter Day Saints), Joseph Smith started
your religion
in Palmyra, N.Y., in 1829..
If
you are a Baptist, you owe the tenets of your religion to
John Smyth,
who launched it in Amsterdam in 1605.
If
you are of the Dutch Reformed church, you recognize Michaelis
Jones as
founder, because he originated your religion in New York in
1628.
If
you worship with the Salvation Army, your sect began with
William Booth
in London in 1865.
If
you are a Christian Scientist, you look to 1879 as the year
in which
your religion was born and to Mrs... Mary Baker Eddy as its
founder.
If
you belong to one of the religious organizations known as
'Church of the
Nazarene," "Pentecostal Gospel."
"Holiness Church," "Pilgrim Holiness
Church," "Jehovah's Witnesses," your religion
is one of the hundreds of new
sects founded by men within the past fifty years.
If
you are Roman Catholic, you know that your religion was
founded in the
year 33 by Jesus Christ the Son of God, and it is still the
same Church..
Provided by Catholic Information Network, (619) 287-3610
(BBS)
-------Original Message----- --
From: d_3_8_69
Date: 3/9/2009 3:42:44 PM
To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
Subject: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod
and His Wife
Get this through your thick
skull. I do not pray or talk to Mary or anyone else. I haver
set foot in a catholic church. I attend Baptist and
occasionaly Christian churches.
--- In israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com, "isaiah14" <isaiah14@..
.> wrote:
>
> If you pray to Mary you do.
>
> -------Original Message----- --
>
> From: d_3_8_69
> Date: 3/8/2009 3:34:09 PM
> To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons: Papal Worship
Proved to be
> the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
>
> I do NOT, and have NEVER "talked" to Mary.
Only God.
>
> --- In israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com, "isaiah14" <isaiah14@>
wrote:
> >
> > What does pray mean? In a court of law the judge
may say that the
> defendant
> > prays for this or prays for that. Pray literally
means "to talk to." When
> > you pray to Mary, you are literally talking to her.
When you ask her to
> > intercede for you, you are talking to her. In other
words, you are praying
> > to Mary. Only Jesus Christ receives your prayers,
and can respond to you.
> >
> > -------Original Message----- --
> >
> > From: d_3_8_69
> > Date: 3/8/2009 1:18:43 PM
> > To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons:
Papal Worship Proved to be
> > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> >
> > Who says I pray to Mary?
> >
> > -- In israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com, "isaiah14" <isaiah14@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > When you pray to Mary and ask her to intercede
for you, you are placing
> > her
> > > on the same level as Jesus Christ.
> > >
> > > -------Original Message----- --
> > >
> > > From: d_3_8_69
> > > Date: 3/8/2009 8:12:14 AM
> > > To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: [israeliteidentity] Re: Two Babylons:
Papal Worship Proved to
> be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > >
> > > Jesus Christ is the Intercessor. When we pray,
it is in His name.
> > >
> > > --- In israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com, Viva Veridad <vivaveridad@ >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Really? You are quite lacking in any
common sense or understanding,
> aren
> > t
> > > you?
> > > >
> > > > If we put her on the same level as
Christ, then we would not have to
> ask
> > > her to intercede for us, would we?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@
yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:07:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Really? You pray to her.. You ask her to
intercede for you. That is
> > putting
> > > her on the same level as Jesus Christ.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/7/2009 11:27:48 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > We never do put Mary on a par with Jesus
Christ.
> > > >
> > > > You persist in parroting the same tired
old errors.
> > > >
> > > > We have told you time and time again what
the distinction is between
> > Mary
> > > and Her Son.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 12:15:59 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It is interesting that Jesus Christ,
while on the cross, made that
> > > statement to the Apostle John... Jesus said to
John, "behold thy mother,"
> > > actually he meant, you are to take care of
her. Remember, Mary doesn't
> > have
> > > a genealogy in the Bible. This is false
doctrine. No where in the bible
> > does
> > > it say that you are to put Mary on an equal
footing with Jesus Christ.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/7/2009 10:33:40 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > I know this will be beyond your
comprehension, Isaiah, but do give the
> > > article a couple of readings to full
understand what is being said here.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Behold Your Motherby Edward P. Sri
> > > > At first glance, one might conclude that
Mary is not an important
> figure
> > > in the Gospel of John. After all, she only
appears in two scenes (at
> Cana
> > > and the Cross) and she only speaks twice in
the entire Gospel ("They
> have
> > no
> > > wine" and "Do whatever he tells
you"). Thus, a quantitative analysis
> would
> > > render Mary an insignificant character in the
fourth Gospel.
> > > > However, if one considers when she
appears and what is specifically
> said
> > > about her, Maryās crucial role in the Gospel
of John becomes clearer.
> > Mary
> > > may only appear twice, but both scenes
represent pivotal moments in
> > > Christās life: the very beginning of His
public ministry at Cana and
> the
> > > climax of His mission as He is dying on the
Cross. In the first event,
> > > Christ performs His first miracle and begins
to reveal His glory. In the
> > > latter, Christās glory is revealed most
fully as He brings His
> > redemptive
> > > mission to its culmination. Significantly,
Mary has an important role to
> > > play in each of these pivotal scenes.
> > > > Another point that stresses Maryās
importance in Johnās Gospel is
> > that
> > > in each scene, Maryās presence is mentioned
three times. And each time
> > she
> > > is not called by her personal name,
"Mary," but is identified by her
> > > relationship with Jesus as His
"mother." This triple repetition of
> > Maryās
> > > presence in each passage highlights her
importance in these scenes. And
> > the
> > > constant reference to her maternal
relationship with Jesus underscores
> her
> > > intimate connection with her Son..
> > > > One final link between Cana and the Cross
is how Jesus addresses Mary
> in
> > > each scene....... Instead of calling her
"mother" or "Mary," Jesus uses a
> title
> > > with which it would have been highly unusual for
a Jewish son to address
> > his
> > > mother. He calls her "woman."
> > > > "Behold Your Mother!"Letās
take a look at this scene from Calvary
> and
> > > examine what it tells us about Mary:
> > > > But standing by the cross of Jesus were
his mother, and his motherās
> > > sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary
Magdalene. When Jesus saw his
> > > mother, and the disciple whom he loved
standing near, he said to his
> > mother,
> > > "Woman, behold, your son!" Then he
said to the disciple, "Behold, your
> > > mother!" And from that hour the disciple
took her to his own home... (Jn.
> > > 19:25ā"27)
> > > > On a basic level, these touching final
words to Mary and His beloved
> > > disciple reveal Jesusā loving care for His
mother. Just before He dies
>
> > > Jesus thinks about how His mother will be
cared for after His death, and
> > He
> > > entrusts her to His closest disciple...
> > > > While many commentators have noted this
point, we must ask if there is
> > > something more being said about Jesus, Mary,
and the beloved disciple in
> > > this scene. It seems unlikely that these words
are meant to convey
> merely
> > > Jesusā attention to Maryās material, human
needs. Johnās Gospel as
> a
> > > whole is filled with much theological symbolism
and prophecy fulfillment
>
> > > This is especially the case in the surrounding
context of this
> particular
> > > scene at the Cross, where practically every
detail is given to show
> > Godās
> > > plan coming to fulfillment. . . Consider the
following:
> > > > First, just before the account of Mary
and John at the Cross, the
> Gospel
> > > mentions how the soldiers cast lots for
Jesusā clothing and then goes
> on
> > > to explain that this was done to fulfill the
Scriptures. The passage
> even
> > > quotes Psalm 22:18 to explicitly make the
connection: "They divide my
> > > garments among them, and for my raiment they
cast lots" (Jn. 19:24).
> > > > Similarly, in John 19:29 the soldiers
gave Jesus "a sponge full of the
> > > vinegar," a direct allusion to Psalm
69:21, which states, "and for my
> > thirst
> > > they gave me vinegar to drink."
> > > > A third example: After Jesus dies, John
goes out of his way to note
> that
> > > the soldiers did not break Jesusā legs, a
detail that highlights how
> > Jesus
> > > died like a sacrificial Passover lamb, whose
bones were not to be broken
> > (Jn
> > > 19:33; Ex. 12:46).
> > > > Finally, John mentions that the soldier
pierced Jesusā side and then
> > > quotes a prophecy from Zechariah 12:10,
"They shall look on him whom
> they
> > > have pierced" (Jn. 19:37)....
> > > > Casting lots, vinegar to drink, bones
left unbroken, pierced by a
> > swordā
> > > we have seen that for the Gospel of John,
these are not bare historical
> > > details. Every point is filled with a deeper
level of symbolism and
> > > theological meaning. And right in the middle
of this chorus of events
> > > announcing Godās plan coming to fulfillment,
Jesus says to Mary,
> Woman,
> > > behold, your son!" Especially since all
the details in the surrounding
> > > context are charged with great significance,
it seems most likely that
> > there
> > > is something much more profound going on in
John 19:25ā"27 than Jesus
> > > merely making sure someone looks after His
mother after He dies.
> > > > One key to unlocking the deeper meaning
of this passage with Jesus and
> > > Mary is to examine the role of the third major
character mentioned in
> this
> > > account: the beloved disciple.
> > > > The Beloved DiscipleTraditional ly, the
beloved disciple has been
> > > identified as the Apostle John. We will focus
here on the important
> > symbolic
> > > role this figure plays in the fourth Gospel.
> > > > The Gospel of John often uses individual
characters to symbolize
> larger
> > > groups. For example, in John 3, Nicodemus is
described as "a man of the
> > > Pharisees" and a "ruler of the
Jews" who comes to Jesus by night and
> does
> > > not understand Jesusā teachings. Some
commentators note how Nicodemus
> > > represents the many Pharisees and other Jewish
leaders who do not
> > understand
> > > Christ and are left, like Nicodemus, in the
dark. Similarly, the
> Samaritan
> > > woman in John 4, who has difficulty
understanding Jesusā words but
> later
> > > comes to some level of faith, represents the
many Samaritans who have
> > fallen
> > > away from Judaism but will come to believe in
Christ.
> > > > A closer look at the figure of the
beloved disciple indicates that
> this
> > > figure also represents more than an individual
follower of Christ. He
> > > represents the ideal disciple. The beloved
disciple is the one who is
> > close
> > > to Jesus, leaning on his masterās breast at
the Last Supper (Jn.
> 13:25).
> > > He is the one Apostle who remains with Jesus
even in the face of
> > Christās
> > > suffering and persecutionā"while the
other Apostles fled, only the
> > beloved
> > > disciple followed Jesus all the way to the
Cross (Jn. 19:26). The
> beloved
> > > disciple also is the first to believe in the
Christās Resurrection (Jn
>
> > > 20:8), and he is the first to bear witness to
the risen Christās
> > lordship
> > > (Jn. 21:7; 21:24).
> > > > Therefore, while the beloved disciple
denotes the individual Apostle
> > John,
> > > he also serves as a symbolic representative of
all faithful disciples.
> The
> > > beloved disciple stands for all those who
intimately follow Christ, even
> > in
> > > the midst of the Cross, and who believe in
Jesus and bear witness to Him
> > as
> > > Lord. In other words, this individual disciple
in the Gospel of John
> > > represents all beloved disciples of
Jesus......
> > > > Mother of All ChristiansThis has
important implications for
> > understanding
> > > Maryās role in the Christian life. In
Jesusā last act before He dies
>
> > He
> > > entrusts this beloved disciple into a maternal
relationship with Mary.
> On
> > a
> > > basic level, this simply indicates that the
beloved disciple has a
> special
> > > relationship with Mary now, like that of a son
and a mother.
> > > > However, on a deeper, spiritual level,
since the beloved disciple
> > > represents all faithful disciples, this
passage can offer important
> > biblical
> > > support for the doctrine of Maryās spiritual
motherhood of all
> > Christians
> > > (see Catechism of the Catholic Church, nos.
968ā"70). In John 19, Mary
> > > becomes the mother of the beloved disciple,
but in Johnās Gospel, this
> > > beloved disciple represents all faithful
disciples. Thus, one can
> conclude
> > > that Mary is in some sense the mother of all
the faithful followers of
> > Jesus
> > > who are represented by the beloved disciple..
> > > > Reflecting on this passage in his general
audience on April 23, 1997,
> > John
> > > Paul II explains that although Jesus does not
explicitly present
> Maryās
> > > spiritual motherhood over all Christians, the
passage does point us to
> > this
> > > reality:
> > > > "Jesusā words āBehold your
sonā effect what they express, making
> > > Mary the mother of John and of all the
disciples destined to receive the
> > > gift of divine grace. On the Cross, Jesus did
not proclaim Maryās
> > > universal motherhood formally, but established
a concrete maternal
> > > relationship between her and the beloved
disciple. In the Lordās
> choice
> > we
> > > can see His concern that this motherhood
should not be interpreted in a
> > > vague way, but should point to Maryās
intense, personal relationship
> > with
> > > individual Christians... . . . May each
one of us, precisely through the
> concrete
> > > reality of Maryās universal motherhood,
fully acknowledge her as our
> own
> > > mother and trustingly commend ourselves to her
maternal love."
> > > > The biblical support for Maryās
spiritual motherhood over all
> > Christians
> > > finds even deeper foundations when we consider
how this passage presents
> > > Mary as the "New Eve," who is
associated with the royal son whom Genesis
> > > 3:15 foretold would defeat the serpent. And it
is that theme which we
> will
> > > explore in our next columnās reflection as
we continue to try to know
> > Mary
> > > better through the Bible..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 11:20:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Where does the Bible say that Mary and
the saints can intercede for
> you
> > > with Jesus?
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/7/2009 8:17:10 AM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Read my e-mail again.
> > > >
> > > > I said: We pray to those whom the icons
or statues represent.
> > > >
> > > > That means we pray to Jesus, or Mary or
any of the saints who can
> > > intercede for us with Jesus.
> > > >
> > > > We are not praying to the piece of wood
or pottery that the icon or
> > statue
> > > is made of.
> > > >
> > > > But I have come to realise, dear boy,
that even this concept is
> > difficult
> > > for you. It's probably going way over your
head.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 8:48:50 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why do you do that when it is not
scripturally based? I do not pray to
> > my
> > > mother and my father. On the contrary, you're
not receptive to the
> > > realization that you are practicing the
occult.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/7/2009 7:05:36 AM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > We do not have idols, and we do not pray
to idols. We pray to those
> whom
> > > the icons or statues represent. We use the
icons or statues in the same
> > way
> > > that you look at a photograph of your mum or
dad, your loved one or ones
>
> > > >
> > > > I realise you are not receptive to the
truth, so it's fruitless to
> > prolong
> > > this discussion.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 6:24:53 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then why do you pray to idols?
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/6/2009 2:50:51 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. . com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Well, ask yourself, this dear boy, if I
thought I was in a false
> church,
> > I
> > > wouldn't be in it. Right?
> > > >
> > > > And if it's any comfort to you (hardly),
I have every intention of
> > > spending the rest of my life as a Roman
Catholic and dying one, with
> > > hopefully a traditional priest to administer
the Last Rites.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not one bit surprised that you are in
a false cult because I've
> come
> > > to realise your powers of reasoning are not
very high. I feel that your
> > > obsession is keeping you from seeing the
truth. If you surround yourself
> > > with falsehood, it becomes part of you.
Instead, if you would surround
> > > yourself with wholesome truth, that would in
turn become part of you.
> What
> > a
> > > transformation that would be.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 1:06:26 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why are you in a false doctrine?
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/5/2009 10:02:26 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Going a little over the edge, dear boy?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 7:09:00 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, YES THE VERY FOOLISH
VIVA VERIDADIADIADIADIA,
> BELIEVES
> > > IN LIES. HAHAHAHAHA, YES THE JESUITS ARE A
SATANIC GROUP IN THE ROMAN
> > > CATHOLIC CHURCH, BUT YOUR TO STUPID TO KNOW
IT.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/5/2009 4:09:37 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Ha, ha, ha...... The very easily beguiled
Isaiah will believe in anything
> so
> > > long as it is not favourable to the Catholic
Church. It doesn't even
> have
> > to
> > > be true. He loves it even more when it isn't
true..
> > > >
> > > > Like what you have posted. Such rubbish I
would not contaminate my
> eyes
> > > with..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. . .
com
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 11:13:18 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Jesuits are a Military Religious
Order of the Roman Catholic
> Church
> > > > "When a Jesuit of the minor rank is
to be elevated to command, he is
> > > conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of
the Order, where there are
> > only
> > > three others present, the principal or
Superior standing in front of the
> > > altar. On either side stands a monk, one of
whom holds a banner of
> yellow
> > > and white, which are the Papal colors, and the
other a black banner with
> a
> > > dagger and red cross above a skull and
crossbones, with the word INRI,
> and
> > > below them the words IUSTUM, NECAR, REGES,
IMPIOUS. The meaning of which
> > is:
> > > It is just to exterminate or annihilate
impious or heretical Kings,
> > > Governments, or Rulers. Upon the floor is a
red cross at which the
> > postulant
> > > or candidate kneels. The Superior hands him a
small black crucifix,
> which
> > he
> > > takes in his left hand and presses to his
heart, and the Superior at the
> > > same time presents to him a dagger, which he
grasps by the blade and
> holds
> > > the point against his heart, the Superior
still holding it by the hilt,
> > and
> > > > thus addresses the postulant:"
> > > >
> > > > Superior:
> > > >
> > > > "My son, heretofore you have been
taught to act the dissembler: among
> > > Roman Catholics to be a Roman Catholic, and to
be a spy even among your
> > own
> > > brethren; to believe no man, to trust no man.
Among the Reformers, to be
> a
> > > reformer; among the Huguenots, to be a
Huguenot; among the Calvinists,
> to
> > be
> > > a Calvinist; among other Protestants,
generally to be a Protestant, and
> > > obtaining their confidence, to seek even to
preach from their pulpits,
> and
> > > to denounce with all the vehemence in your
nature our Holy Religion and
> > the
> > > Pope; and even to descend so low as to become
a Jew among Jews, that you
> > > might be enabled to gather together all
information for the benefit of
> > your
> > > Order as a faithful soldier of the
Pope.."
> > > >
> > > > "You have been taught to insidiously
plant the seeds of jealousy and
> > > hatred between communities, provinces, states
that were at peace, and
> > incite
> > > them to deeds of blood, involving them in war
with each other, and to
> > create
> > > revolutions and civil wars in countries that
were independent and
> > prosperous
> > > cultivating the arts and the sciences and
enjoying the blessings of
> peace.
> > > To take sides with the combatants and to act
secretly with your brother
> > > Jesuit, who might be engaged on the other
side, but openly opposed to
> that
> > > with which you might be connected, only that
the Church might be the
> > gainer
> > > in the end, in the conditions fixed in the
treaties for peace and that
> the
> > > end justifies the means."
> > > >
> > > > "You have been taught your duty as a
spy, to gather all statistics,
> > facts
> > > and information in your power from every
source; to ingratiate yourself
> > into
> > > the confidence of the family circle of
Protestants and heretics of every
> > > class and character, as well as that of the
merchant, the banker, the
> > lawyer
> > > among the schools and universities, in
parliaments and legislatures, and
> > > the judiciaries and councils of state, and to
be all things to all men,
> > for
> > > the Pope's sake, whose servants we are unto
death."
> > > >
> > > > "You have received all your
instructions heretofore as a novice, a
> > > neophyte, and have served as co-adjurer,
confessor and priest, but you
> > have
> > > not yet been invested with all that is
necessary to command in the Army
> of
> > > Loyola in the service of the Pope. You must
serve the proper time as the
> > > instrument and executioner as directed by your
superiors; for none can
> > > command here who has not consecrated his
labors with the blood of the
> > > heretic; for "without the shedding of
blood no man can be saved."
> > Therefore,
> > > to fit yourself for your work and make your
own salvation sure, you will
>
> > in
> > > addition to your former oath of obedience to
your order and allegiance
> to
> > > the Pope, repeat after me:-"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > (The following material contained in
Congressional Record, House Bill
> > 1523
> > > Contested election case of Eugene C.
Bonniwell, against Thos. S. Butler,
> > > February 15, 1913, pages 3215-6. The oath
appears in its entirety, in
> the
> > > book, THE SUPPRESSED TRUTH ABOUT THE
ASSASSINATION OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN,
> by
> > > Burke McCarty, pages 14-16).
> > > > The Extreme Oath of the Jesuits "I,
............ , now, in the
> presence
> > of
> > > Almighty God, the Blessed Virgin Mary, the
blessed Michael the Archangel
>
> > > the blessed St. John the Baptist, the holy
Apostles St. Peter and St..
> > Paul
> > > and all the saints and sacred hosts of heaven,
and to you, my ghostly
> > father
> > > the Superior General of the Society of Jesus,
founded by St. Ignatius
> > > Loyola in the Pontificate of Paul the Third,
and continued to the
> present,
> > > do by the womb of the virgin, the matrix of
God, and the rod of Jesus
> > Christ
> > > declare and swear, that his holiness the Pope
is Christ's Vice-regent
> and
> > > is the true and only head of the Catholic or
Universal Church throughout
> > the
> > > earth; and that by virtue of the keys of
binding and loosing, given to
> his
> > > Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ, he hath
power to depose heretical
> > kings
> > > princes, states, commonwealths and
governments, all being illegal
> without
> > > his sacred confirmation and that they may
safely be destroyed."
> > > >
> > > > "Therefore, to the utmost of my
power I shall and will defend this
> > > doctrine of his Holiness' right and custom
against all usurpers of the
> > > heretical or Protestant authority whatever,
especially the Lutheran of
> > > Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and
the now pretended
> authority
> > > and churches of England and Scotland, and
branches of the same now
> > > established in Ireland and on the Continent of
America and elsewhere;
> and
> > > all adherents in regard that they be usurped
and heretical, opposing the
> > > sacred Mother Church of Rome. I do now
renounce and disown any
> allegiance
> > as
> > > due to any heretical king, prince or state named
Protestants or Liberals
>
> > or
> > > obedience to any of the laws, magistrates or
officers."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further declare that the
doctrine of the churches of England and
> > > Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots and
others of the name
> Protestants
> > or
> > > Liberals to be damnable and they themselves
damned who will not forsake
> > the
> > > same."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further declare, that I will
help, assist, and advise all or any
> > of
> > > his Holiness' agents in any place wherever I
shall be, in Switzerland,
> > > Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway,
England, Ireland or America,
> or
> > > in any other Kingdom or territory I shall come
to, and do my uttermost
> to
> > > extirpate the heretical Protestants or
Liberals' doctrines and to
> destroy
> > > all their pretended powers, legal or
otherwise."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further promise and declare,
that notwithstanding I am dispensed
> > > with, to assume my religion heretical, for the
propaganda of the Mother
> > > Church's interest, to keep secret and private
all her agents' counsels
> > from
> > > time to time, as they may entrust me and not
to divulge, directly or
> > > indirectly, by word, writing or circumstance
whatever; but to execute
> all
> > > that shall be proposed, given in charge or
discovered unto me, by you,
> my
> > > ghostly father, or any of this sacred
covenant."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further promise and declare,
that I will have no opinion or will
> > of
> > > my own, or any mental reservation whatever,
even as a corpse or cadaver
> > > (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly
obey each and every
> command
> > > that I may receive from my superiors in the
Militia of the Pope and of
> > Jesus
> > > Christ."
> > > >
> > > > "That I may go to any part of the
world withersoever I may be sent, to
> > the
> > > frozen regions of the North, the burning sands
of the desert of Africa,
> or
> > > the jungles of India, to the centers of
civilization of Europe, or to
> the
> > > wild haunts of the barbarous savages of
America, without murmuring or
> > > repining, and will be submissive in all things
whatsoever communicated
> to
> > me
> > > "
> > > >
> > > > "I furthermore promise and declare
that I will, when opportunity
> present
> >
> > > make and wage relentless war, secretly or
openly, against all heretics,
> > > Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to
do, to extirpate and
> > > exterminate them from the face of the whole
earth; and that I will spare
> > > neither age, sex or condition; and that I will
hang, waste, boil, flay,
> > > strangle and bury alive these infamous
heretics, rip up the stomachs and
> > > wombs of their women and crush their infants'
heads against the walls,
> in
> > > order to annihilate forever their execrable
race. That when the same
> > cannot
> > > be done openly, I will secretly use the
poisoned cup, the strangulating
> > cord
> > > the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet,
regardless of the honor,
> > > rank, dignity, or authority of the person or
persons, whatever may be
> > their
> > > condition in life, either public or private,
as I at any time may be
> > > directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or
Superior of the
> Brotherhood
> > of
> > > the Holy Faith,
> > > > of the Society of Jesus."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "In confirmation of which, I hereby
dedicate my life, my soul and all
> my
> > > corporal powers, and with this dagger which I
now receive, I will
> > subscribe
> > > my name written in my own blood, in testimony
thereof; and should I
> prove
> > > false or weaken in my determination, may my
brethren and fellow soldiers
> > of
> > > the Militia of the Pope cut off my hands and
my feet, and my throat from
> > ear
> > > to ear, my belly opened and sulphur burned
therein, with all the
> > punishment
> > > that can be inflicted upon me on earth and my
soul be tortured by demons
> > in
> > > an eternal hell forever!"
> > > >
> > > > "All of which, I, .........., do
swear by the Blessed Trinity and
> > blessed
> > > Sacraments, which I am now to receive, to
perform and on my part to keep
> > > inviolable; and do call all the heavenly and
glorious host of heaven to
> > > witness the blessed Sacrament of the
Eucharist, and witness the same
> > further
> > > with my name written and with the point of
this dagger dipped in my own
> > > blood and sealed in the face of this holy
covenant."
> > > >
> > > > (He receives the wafer from the Superior
and writes his name with the
> > > point of his dagger dipped in his own blood
taken from over his heart.)
> > > >
> > > > Superior:
> > > >
> > > > "You will now rise to your feet and
I will instruct you in the
> Catechism
> > > necessary to make yourself known to any member
of the Society of Jesus
> > > belonging to this rank."
> > > >
> > > > "In the first place, you, as a
Brother Jesuit, will with another
> > mutually
> > > make the ordinary sign of the cross as any
ordinary Roman Catholic would
>
> > > then one cross his wrists, the palms of his
hands open, and the other in
> > > answer crosses his feet, one above the other;
the first points with
> > > forefinger of the right hand to the center of
the palm of the left, the
> > > other with the forefinger of the left hand
points to the center of the
> > palm
> > > of the right; the first then with his right
hand makes a circle around
> his
> > > head, touching it; the other then with the
forefinger of his left hand
> > > touches the left side of his body just below
his heart; the first then
> > with
> > > his right hand draws it across the throat of
the other, and the latter
> > then
> > > with a dagger down the stomach and abdomen of
the first. The first then
> > says
> > > Iustum; and the other answers Necar; the first
Reges. The other answers
> > > Impious." (The meaning of which has
already been explained.) "The first
> > will
> > > then
> > > > present a small piece of paper folded in
a peculiar manner, four times
>
> > > which the other will cut longitudinally and on
opening the name Jesu
> will
> > be
> > > found written upon the head and arms of a
cross three times. You will
> then
> > > give and receive with him the following
questions and answers:-"
> > > >
> > > > Question:- From whither do you come?
> > > >
> > > > Answer:- The Holy faith.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- Whom do you serve?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- The Holy Father at Rome, the Pope,
and the Roman Catholic Church
> > > Universal throughout the world.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- Who commands you?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- The Successor of St. Ignatius
Loyola, the founder of the Society
> of
> > > Jesus or the Soldiers of Jesus Christ....
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- Who received you?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- A venerable man in white hair..
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- How?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- With a naked dagger, I kneeling upon
the cross beneath the
> banners
> > of
> > > the Pope and of our sacred order.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- Did you take an oath?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- I did, to destroy heretics and their
governments and rulers, and
> to
> > > spare neither age, sex nor condition... To be
as a corpse without any
> > opinion
> > > or will of my own, but to implicitly obey my
Superiors in all things
> > without
> > > hesitation of murmuring.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- Will you do that?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- I will.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- How do you travel?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- In the bark of Peter the fisherman.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- Whither do you travel?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- To the four quarters of the globe.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- For what purpose?
> > > >
> > > > A.:- To obey the orders of my general and
Superiors and execute the
> will
> > > of the Pope and faithfully fulfill the
conditions of my oaths.
> > > >
> > > > Q.:- Go ye, then, into all the world and
take possession of all lands
> in
> > > the name of the Pope. He who will not accept
him as the Vicar of Jesus
> and
> > > his Vice-regent on earth, let him be accursed
and exterminated. . "
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Oath of the Knights of Columbus,
Knights of Malta andRhodes
> Scholars
> > > is based upon the Oath of the Jesuits
> > > > (This is an extract of the Congressional
Record of the House of
> > > Representatives dated February 15, 1913, where
the oath is entered as
> > > purported to be of the Knights of Columbus).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "I, ............ , now in the
presence of Almighty God, the blessed
> > Virgin
> > > Mary, the blessed St. John the Baptist, the
Holy Apostles, St. Peter and
> > St.
> > > Paul, and all the saints, sacred host of
heaven, and to you, my Ghostly
> > > Father, the superior general of the Society of
Jesus rounded by St..
> > > Ignatius Loyola, in the pontification of Paul
the III and continued to
> the
> > > present, do by the womb at the Virgin, the
matrix of God, and the rod of
> > > Jesus Christ, declare and swear that His
Holiness the Pope, is Christ's
> > vice
> > > regent and is the true and only head of the
Catholic or Universal Church
> > > throughout the earth; and that by virtue of
the keys of binding and
> > loosing
> > > given His Holiness by my Savior, Jesus Christ,
he hath power to depose
> > > heretical kings, princes, States,
Commonwealths, and Governments and
> they
> > > may be safely destroyed. Therefore to the
utmost of ray power I will
> > defend
> > > this doctrine and His Holiness's right and
custom against all usurpers
> of
> > > the
> > > > heretical or Protestant authority
whatever, especially the Lutheran
> > Church
> > > of Germany, Holland, Denmark, Sweden, and
Norway and the now pretended
> > > authority and Churches of England and
Scotland, and the branches of same
> > now
> > > established in Ireland and on the Continent of
America and elsewhere,
> and
> > > all adherents in regard that they may be
usurped and heretical, opposing
> > the
> > > sacred Mother Church of Rome."
> > > >
> > > > "I do now denounce and disown any
allegiance as due to any heretical
> > king,
> > > prince, or State, named Protestant or
Liberals, or obedience to any of
> > their
> > > laws, magistrates, or officers.... . . . .
"
> > > >
> > > > "I do further declare that the
doctrine of the Churches of England and
> > > Scotland, of the Calvinists, Huguenots, and
others of the name of
> > > Protestants or Masons to be damnable, and they
themselves to be damned
> who
> > > will not forsake the same."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further declare that I will
help assist, and advise all or any
> of
> > > His Holiness's agents, in any place where I
should be, in Switzerland,
> > > Germany, Holland, Ireland, or America, or in
any other kingdom or
> > territory
> > > I shall come to and do my utmost to extirpate
the heretical Protestant
> or
> > > Masonic doctrines and to destroy all their
pretended powers, legal or
> > > otherwise."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further promise and declare
that, notwithstanding I am dispensed
> > > with to assume any religion heretical for the
propagation of the Mother
> > > Church's interest to keep secret and private
all her agents' counsels
> from
> > > time to time, as they intrust me and not
divulge, directly or indirectly
>
> > by
> > > word, writing, or circumstances whatever but
to execute all that should
> be
> > > proposed, given in charge or discovered unto
me by you my Ghostly Father
>
> > or
> > > any of this sacred order."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further promise and declare
that I will have no opinion or will
> of
> > > my own or any mental reservation whatsoever,
even as a corpse or cadaver
> > > (perinde ac cadaver), but will unhesitatingly
obey each and every
> command
> > > that I may receive from my superiors in the
militia of the Pope and of
> > Jesus
> > > Christ."
> > > >
> > > > "That I will go to any part of the
world whithersoever I may be sent,
> to
> > > the frozen regions north, jungles of India, to
the centers of
> civilization
> > > of Europe, or to the wild haunts of the
barbarous savages of America
> > without
> > > murmuring or repining, and will be submissive
in all things whatsoever
> is
> > > communicated to me."
> > > >
> > > > "I do further promise and declare
that I will, when opportunity
> presents
> >
> > > make and wage relentless war, secretly and
openly against all heretics,
> > > Protestants and Masons, as I am directed to do
to extirpate them from
> the
> > > face of the whole earth; and that I will spare
neither age, sex, or
> > > condition, and that will hang, bum, waste,
boil, flay, strangle, and
> bury
> > > alive these infamous heretics; rip up the
stomachs and wombs of their
> > women,
> > > and crush their infants' heads against the
wails in order to annihilate
> > > their execrable race. That when the same can
not be done openly, I will
> > > secretly use the poisonous cup, the
strangulation cord, the steel of the
> > > poniard, or the leaden bullet, regardless of
the honor, rank, dignity,
> or
> > > authority of the persons, whatever may be
their condition in life,
> either
> > > public or private, as I at any time may be
directed so to do by any
> agents
> > > of the Pope or superior of the Brotherhood of
the Holy Father of the
> > Society
> > > of Jesus."
> > > >
> > > > "In confirmation of which I hereby
dedicate my life, soul, and all
> > > corporal powers, and with the dagger which I
now receive I will
> subscribe
> > my
> > > name written in my blood in testimony thereof;
and should I prove false
> or
> > > weaken in my determination, may my brethren
and fellow soldiers of the
> > > militia of the Pope cut off my hands and feet
and my throat from ear to
> > ear,
> > > my belly opened and sulphur burned therein
with all the punishment that
> > can
> > > be inflicted upon me on earth and my soul
shall be tortured by demons in
> > > eternal hell forever."
> > > >
> > > > "That I will in voting always vote
for K. of C, in preference to a
> > > Protestant, especially a Mason, and that I
will leave my party so to do;
> > > that if two Catholics are on the ticket I will
satisfy myself which is
> the
> > > better supporter of Mother Church and vote
accordingly. . . "
> > > >
> > > > "That I will not deal with or employ
a Protestant if in my power to
> deal
> > > with or employ a Catholic. That I will place
Catholic girls in
> Protestant
> > > families that a weekly report may be made of
the inner movements of the
> > > heretics."
> > > >
> > > > "That I will provide myself with
arms and ammunition that I may be in
> > > readiness when the word is passed, or I am
commanded to defend the
> church
> > > either as an individual or with the militia of
the Pope...."
> > > >
> > > > "All of which I, ............ , do
swear by the blessed Trinity and
> > > blessed sacrament which I am now to receive to
perform and on part to
> keep
> > > this, my oath."
> > > >
> > > > "In testimony hereof, I take this
most holy and blessed Sacrament of
> the
> > > Eucharist and witness the same further with my
name written with the
> point
> > > of this dagger dipped in my own blood and seal
in the face of this holy
> > > sacrament."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Oath administered to the Illuminati
is based upon the Oath of the
> > > Jesuits
> > > > Before the Oath is administered it is
said -- a sword is pointed at
> the
> > > breast:
> > > >
> > > > "Shouldst thou become a traitor or
perjurer, let this sword remind
> thee
> > of
> > > each and all the members in arms against thee.
Do not hope to find
> safety;
> > > whithersoever thou mayest fly, shame and
remorse as well as the
> vengeance
> > of
> > > thine unknown brothers will torture and pursue
thee."
> > > >
> > > > Then in the Oath which follows he swears:
> > > >
> > > > ". . . Eternal silence, and
faithfulness and everlasting obedience to
> > all
> > > superiors and regulations of the Order. I also
renounce my own personal
> > > views and opinions as well as all control of
my powers and capacities. I
> > > promise also to consider the well-being of the
Order as my own, and I am
> > > ready, as long as I am a member, to serve it
with my goods, my honour,
> and
> > > my life . . . If I act against the rules and
well-being of the Society,
> I
> > > will submit myself to the penalties to which
my superiors may condemn me
> .
> > .
> > > ."
> > > >
> > > > "In the name of the son crucified
(i.e. the Pentagram, the illuminised
> > > man), swear to break the bonds which still
bind you to your father,
> mother
> >
> > > brothers, sisters, wife, relatives, friends,
mistresses, kings, chiefs,
> > > benefactors, and all persons to whomsoever you
may have promised faith,
> > > obedience, and service. Name and curse the
place where you were born, so
> > > that you may dwell in another sphere, to which
you will attain only
> after
> > > having renounced this pestilential globe, vile
refuse of the heavens!
> From
> > > this moment you are free from the so-called
oath to country and laws:
> > swear
> > > to reveal to the new chief, recognised by you,
what you may have seen or
> > > done, intercepted, read or heard, learned or
surmised, and also seek for
> > and
> > > spy out what your eyes cannot discern. Honour
and respect the Aqua
> Tofana
> > (i
> > > e. an imperceptably slow poison) as a sure,
prompt, and necessary means
> of
> > > purging the globe by death of those who seek
to vilify the truth and
> sieze
> > > it
> > > > from our hands. Fly from Spain, Naples,
and all accursed land; finally
> > fly
> > > from the temptation to reveal what you may
hear, for the thunder is no
> > > prompter that the knife, which awaits you in
whatsoever place you may be
>
> > > Live in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy
Spirit. (The Trinity of
> > > Illuminism -- Cabalistic and Gnostic. The
Father -- the generating fire;
> > the
> > > Holy Spirit -- the Great Mother Nature,
reproducing all things; the Son
> --
> > > the manifestation, the vital fluid, the astral
light of Illuminism). "
> > > >
> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __
> > > > Unknown to the members of these various
secret societies seeking
> > > Illumination" and "deification,
" their masters are the Cabalistic Jew,
> > the
> > > originator of Gnostic mysticism. (Please see
the text that follows).
> > > >
> > > > Go to Superiors General of the Society of
Jesus
> > > > Go to History of the Jesuits
> > > > Go to Initial Membership List of the
Knights of Malta
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "The three forms of initiation --
individual, group, or universal --
> all
> > > lead to conscious or unconscious control by a
central power, who in some
> > > mysterious way makes its influence felt; often
clairvoyantly and
> > > clairaudiently seen and heard, but never
physically present or visible.
> > the
> > > system in all three is the same -- cabalistic.
Secretly here and there
> > > individuals are prepared; these again form
groups or centres from which
> > > influences spread until they form a network
covering the entire world.
> > Like
> > > rays from a hidden sun these groups are
apparently divergent and
> detatched
> >
> > > but in reality all issue from the same central
body. The system is seen
> to
> > > be an insidious and secret dissemination of
ideas, orienting and
> breaking
> > > down all barriers of family, religion,
morality, nationality, and all
> > > self-initiative thought, always under the
cloak of a new and more modern
> > > religion, new thought, new morality, a new
heaven and a new earth; until
> > it
> > > evolves a gigantic
> > > > robot merely answering to the will and
commands of a secret Master
> Mind.
> > > They dream they are free, original,
self-determining individuals; they
> are
> > > but the negative moon reflecting and
reproducing the light from the same
> > > hidden and cabalistic Sun. It is called
regeneration by the Illuminati;
> it
> > > is in truth individual death and
disintegration, followed by a
> > resurrection
> > > as negative "light-bearers" of this
cabalistic dark Sun whose Luciferian
>
> > > Grand Plan" is world domination."
(Anonymous, Light-bearers of Darkness,
> > The
> > > Christian Book Club of America, p105).
> > > >
> > > > The Jewish Encyclopaedia points out that
Gnosticism "was Jewish in
> > > character long before it became
Christian," and quotes the opinion, "a
> > > movement closely connected with Jewish
mysticism." The Freemason Ragon
> > says:
> > > "The Cabala is the key of the occult
sciences. The Gnostics were born of
> > the
> > > Cabalists."
> > > >
> > > > Rabbi Benamozegh says, "Those who
will take the trouble to examine
> with
> > > care the connection between Judaism and
philosophic Freemasonry,
> theosophy
> >
> > > and the mysteries in general . .......... .
will cease to smile in pity at
> > the
> > > suggestion that Cabalistic theology may have a
role to play in the
> > religious
> > > transformations of the future.. .. .. . It
contains the key to the
> modern
> > > religious problem" (Anonymous, Light-
bearers of Darkness, The Christian
> > > Book Club of America, p11)..
> > > >
> > > > "Chaldean thought acted powerfully
upon orthodox Judaism and
> determined
> > > the growth of a sect in its midst which was to
transform Israel. . . ...
> > > This sect was that of the Pharisees. . . .
What they borrowed (from the
> > > Chaldeans) in fact . . . was the essence of
the Pantheistic doctrine ..
>
> > .
> > > It was then that was formed from these
borrowings that Kabalah of the
> > > Pharisees which was for long transmitted
orally from Master to disciple,
> > and
> > > was, 800 years later, to inspire the
compilation of the Talmud, and
> found
> > > its completest expression in the Sepher ha
Zohar. . . . This religion of
> > the
> > > 'Deified Man,' with which they were
impregnated in Babylon, was only
> > > conceived as benefiting the Jew, superior and
predestinated being. . . .
>
> > (M
> > > Flavien Bernier, Les Juifs et le Talmud,
1913).
> > > >
> > > > The Jewish writer Bernard Lazare said,
"It is certain that there were
> > Jews
> > > even at the cradle of Freemasonry --
Cabalistic Jews, as it is proved by
> > > certain existing rites . . .. The Jew is also
a builder: proud,
> ambitious,
> > > domineering, he tries to draw everything to
himself. He is not satisfied
> > > with de-Christianising, he Judaises; he
destroys the Catholic or
> > Protestant
> > > faith, he provokes indifference, but he
imposes his idea of the world,
> of
> > > morals, and of life upon whose faith he ruins;
he works at his age-old
> > task
> > > -- the annihilation of the religion of
Christ!"
> > > >
> > > > Mrs. Nesta Webster in Secret Societies
and Subversive Movements,
> writes:
> > > >
> > > > "The Protocols of the Learned Elders
of Zion have been marvellously
> > > correct as prophecy, foreshadowing all of this
in a remarkable way,
> > whatever
> > > their first origin, before Maurice Joly used
part of them in 1864."
> > > >
> > > > "Dr. Ranking, who has devoted many
years of study to the question . .
>
> > in
> > > a very interesting paper published in the
masonic journal, Ars Quatuor
> > > Coronatorum, observes: 'That from the very
commencement of Christianity
> > > there has been transmitted through the
centuries a body of doctrine
> > > incompatible with Christianity in the various
official Churches. That
> the
> > > bodies teaching these doctrines profess to do
so on the authority of St.
> > > John, to whom, as they claimed, the true
secrets had been committed by
> the
> > > Founder of Christianity, that during the
Middle Ages, the main support
> of
> > > the Gnostic bodies and the main repository of
this knowledge (Johannism)
> > was
> > > the Society of the Templars.' And he further
said, 'The record of the
> > > Templars in Palestine is one long tale of
intrigue and treachery on the
> > part
> > > of the Order'."
> > > >
> > > > In his History of Magic, Eliphas Levi
informs us:
> > > >
> > > > "The Templars had two doctrines: one
was concealed and reserved to the
> > > leaders, being that of Johannism; the other
was public, being Roman
> > Catholic
> > > doctrine. . . The Johannism of the adepts was
the Kabalah of the
> Gnostics,
> > > but it degenerated speedily into a mystic
pantheism carried even to
> > idolatry
> > > of Nature and hatred of all revealed dogma. .
........ They fostered the
> > > regrets of every fallen worship and the hopes
of every new cultus,
> > promising
> > > to all liberty of conscience and a new
orthodoxy which should be the
> > > synthesis of all persecuted beliefs. They went
even so far as to
> recognise
> > > the pantheistic symbolism of the grand masters
of Black Magic . . . they
> > > rendered divine honours to the monstrous idol
Baphomet.."
> > > >
> > > > The mystic affiliations under the
Pyramids of Egypt, the esoteric sect
> > of
> > > Pythagoras, the astrologers or mathematicians
of Rome in the time of
> > > Domitian, the House of Wisdom in Cairo, the
Ismailis or Assassins,
> > > Companions of the Old Man of the Mountain, the
Templars, the Rose-Croix
> > > (Rosicrucians) , the Carbonari, the Jesuits,
Freemasons, B'nai B'rith,
> > > Knights of Columbus, the Souffrants, the
Chercheurs, Lodges of St. John,
> > of
> > > Melchisedek, Royal Priests, Masters of the
Wise, the Asiatic Brethren .
>
> >
> > > all appear to form an uninterrupted chain of
these superior affiliations
> .
> > .
> > > . under the name of the Illuminati, under the
Directing Power of the
> > > Invisibles -- Earthly beings -- Masters
working on the Astral, whose
> > > self-appointed role was to be the arbiters and
Masters of the World..
> > jesuits
> > > htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.biblebel ievers.org. au/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: rsolano@rgv. rr.com
> > > > Date: 3/5/2009 7:42:35 AM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Cc: TWOMIFTG@yahoogroup s.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Jesuits are not the "assassination
arm" of the RCC.
> > > > Every Order has this power to protect
"The Church".
> > > > They use the mafia or any other group or
individual
> > > > to carry it out but only in very special
drastic circumstances.
> > > > Jesuits are the "spy arm" of
the RCC..... They are infiltrated
> > > > in the Universities, government agencies
and even amond
> > > > the Protestant clergy. Their quest is to
"intellectually
> > > > persuade" acceptance of Roman
Catholism. One Order
> > > > Paulist Fathers are almost like
Protestant in every regard..
> > > > Their job is to try to convert
Protestants to RCC. If you
> > > > read their literature etc you will find
that they don't even
> > > > sound like Papist - an older daughter of
mine fell for their
> > > > propaganda and got baptised at the age of
21. They got to
> > > > her around the abortion issue. The
abortion issue to condition
> > > > everyone that the RCC is morally superior
to others and that
> > > > they have the right to tell anyone and
everyone what to do with
> > > > their bobies and soul. Even by passing
laws. In the past they
> > > > had laws in some states that you could
not even display the
> > > > condoms - Supreme Court of US rectified
that issue and
> > > > declare the Conn. law unconstitutional.
> > > > If it were up to them you would not even
have Nudist camps
> > > > for Daann Sloppson nor gay bathhouses for
Mechelspermberg.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "isaiah14"
<isaiah14@sbcglobal ... net>
> > > > To: <israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups.
com>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:33 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > They are basically the same thing. Just
like the Jesuits are the
> > > > assassination arm of the roman catholic
church...
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/4/2009 11:29:57 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Let me get this straight now, Isaiah.
> > > >
> > > > The Knights of Columbus run around in
white hooded capes, burning
> > crosses
> > > on
> > > > the lawns of black people?
> > > >
> > > > Hmm. Interesting. .
> > > >
> > > > Interesting how easy it is to beguile you
with any fiction that exists
> > > > detrimental to Catholicism.
> > > >
> > > > But if you are so convinced of this
extreme falsehood, show us all the
> > > proof
> > > >
> > > > I think we will find, that this will be a
sheer impossibility. And as
> > > > usual, we wait, and wait, and
wait...because our dear friend Isaiah
> can
> > t
> > > > deliver on his wild statements.
> > > >
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. ..com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 4:20:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > The Knights of Columbus.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/4/2009 3:07:06 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. . .
com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Ah, so you are saying the Ku Klux Klan
are all Catholics?
> > > >
> > > > Hmm.
> > > >
> > > > Tell that to friend John Knight. I am
sure when he traverses the
> > property
> > > of
> > > > those he hates, setting fire to crosses
on their front lawns, he will
> > have
> > > a
> > > > chuckle thinking, "Isaiah believes
we're Catholics doing this."
> > > >
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal
......... net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 3:41:05 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > No, the roman catholic church had the
crusades and the Inquisition to
> do
> > > > their dirty work. It is about time that
you stopped being a racist and
> a
> > > > bigot and start to stand up for yourself.
The roman catholic church
> are
> > > the
> > > > white hooded men that burn crosses, and
they have also been known to
> > burn
> > > > Bibles. You show your true emblem of
deceit and lies, and it is you
> that
> > > God
> > > > will by pass, which he has already done.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/4/2009 1:30:23 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > But they, my dear deluded friend, are not
as repulsive as men in white
> > > hoods
> > > > burning crosses on the lawns of
respectable citizens. White
> supremacists
> > > > (that includes you) have a whole host of
unlovely toys and emblems of
> > its
> > > > own. Your little idols.
> > > >
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal . .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 1:04:07 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > No the church did. The catholic church
loves toys. They have toy dolls
>
> > > toy
> > > > statutes, and so forth..
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/4/2009 11:53:25 AM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > The Catholic Church is not concerned with
toys.
> > > >
> > > > Commercialization and greed gave birth to
the bunny and the eggs. It's
> > > > certainly nothing to do with the church.
> > > >
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal . .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:10:57
AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > The roman catholic church.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: melvinalexander
> > > > Date: 3/4/2009 7:11:08 AM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > and where did the eggs and the bunny come
from?
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "isaiah14"
<isaiah14@sbcglobal . net>
> > > > To: <israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups.
com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 10:58 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > No, the roman catholic church is
mythology as the article below proves
> .
> > .
> > > . . Want
> > > > more?
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/2/2009 10:29:00 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups..
. . . . . com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > Mythology, mythology, mythology, my
friend. Delightful, I'm sure, but
> of
> > > > little relevance to any of us.
> > > >
> > > > From: isaiah14 <isaiah14@sbcglobal .
net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 10:41:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > It is considered rubbish because it is to
fantastic to believe..
> > > >
> > > > Goddesses associated with Isis
> > > >
> > > > Isis was closely associated with Hathor.
In fact, the two goddesses
> are
> > > > often so alike in appearance that only
the hieroglyphic inscription
> can
> > > > confirm which of them is actually
depicted (as in the depiction of the
> > > > goddesses with Queen Nefertari, above).
Both Hathor and Isis were
> linked
> > > to
> > > > the star Spica (in the ancient
constellation which was centered around
> > the
> > > > modern constellation of Virgo) because
the star first appeared around
> > > > harvest time. A further link is provided
by the fact that when Hours
> > > chopped
> > > > of IsisĀ“ head (because Isis would not
strike the fatal blow against
> her
> > > > brother Set) she responded by causing the
head of a cow (one of the
> most
> > > > common forms of Hathor) to grow in its
place.. She was also associated
> > > with
> > > > Nut who also took the form of a cow and
was associated with the
> sycamore
> > > > tree.
> > > >
> > > > Isis was also closely associated with her
sister Nephthys and the two
> > > often
> > > > bear a strong resemblance. Like Hathor it
is often difficult to tell
> > > > Nepythys from her sister Isis. The two
sisters often appear together
> in
> > > > funerary scenes and were frequently used
to represent Upper and Lower
> > > Egypt
> > > > ( with Isis representing Upper Egypt). It
is sometimes suggested that
> > Isis
> > > > represented light and Nephthys
represented the dark, but this is
> perhaps
> > > > overstating the differences between
them.. It would certainly be
> unfair
> > to
> > > > suggest that Nephthys was considered to
be the evil or negative side
> of
> > > Isis
> > > > Rather the two goddesses were closely
tied together and act together
> to
> > > > protect the dead and the living.
> > > >
> > > > When Amun was assimilated with Ra, his
wife Mut merged with Ra's wife,
> > > > Isis-Hathor, as the composite deity
Mut-Isis-Nekhbet. Mut was a mother
> > > > goddess, like Isis, but was generally
considered to be infertile and
> > > > virginal. Thus it was suggested that Isis
became pregnant by magical
> > means
> > > > and was still a virgin. This is an
interesting version of the idea of
> a
> > > > virginal birth in which the power is
firmly placed with the mother and
> > not
> > > > the (deceased) father. The situation was
further complicated by the
> fact
> > > > that Amun had become associated with Min
and Amun-Min in turn was
> > > associated
> > > > with both Ra and Hours, but was not so
easily associated with Osiris
> > (the
> > > > deceased husband of Isis). As a result,
Isis was sometimes described
> as
> > > the
> > > > lover of Min, but was also occasionally
described as his mother when
> > Hours
> > > > was described as her husband.
> > > > The goddess Serket was often seen as an
aspect Isis because of her
> power
> > > to
> > > > cure scorpion stings and because of her
role as one of the guardians
> who
> > > > protected the four sons of Hours as they
watched over the contents of
> > the
> > > > canopic jars. Futhermore, Serket was
considered to be the patron of
> > > marriage
> > > > and Isis was the epitome of a married
woman.
> > > > She was linked with Seshat because of her
wisdom and because Seshat
> had
> > a
> > > > son named "Hornub"
("golden Hours). Due to her association with the
> > > > life-giving waters of the Nile she was
closely associated with Anuket
> > > (also
> > > > known as Ankhat or Anquat) , Satis and
Hatmehyt . In her stellar
> aspect
> > > she
> > > > was known as Khut (the light giver) at
new year, and linked to Sopdet
> > (or
> > > > Sept) as the personification of Sirius -
the star which rose shortly
> > > before
> > > > the innundation. This association was
strengthened by an association
> > > between
> > > > Osiris and Sahu (the husband of Sopdet)
and Hours and Sopdu.
> > > > As a goddess of agriculture she was known
as Kekhet, as goddess of
> > fields
> > > > and cultivated lands, and Tcheft (or
That), as goddess of the food
> > > offerings
> > > > which were to be presented to the gods.
As an earth goddess she was
> > > > associated with Usert. She absorbed
Thenenet (a goddess in the
> > underworld)
> > > > and as a goddess of the dead she was
associated with Amentet (because
> > she
> > > > gave the deceased bread and the breath of
life) and Ma'at (as she was
> > > > sometimes decsribed as one who judged the
souls of the dead).
> > > > Isis merged with Renenutet as Isermithis
or Thermounthis in her role
> as
> > > > mother and was associated with Heqet and
Tawaret (goddesses of
> > childbirth)
> > >
> > > > In leonine form she was associated with
Aat, Menhet, Renpet , Menhet ,
> > > > Weret-hekau (Urthekau), Heqet and Wadjet.
She also absorbed other
> local
> > > > goddesses such as Hert (in Letopolis),
Hetet (in Behutet), Hurt (in
> > > Nekhen),
> > > > Thenenet (in Hermonthis), Ant (in
Dendera), Mersekhen (in
> Herakleopolis)
> > ,
> > > > Neb-tept (in Arsinoe)
> > > > During the Late period she was often
associated with a number of other
> > > > goddesses thoughout the ancient world, in
particular Astarte. The
> Greeks
> > > > associated her with Demeter, while the
Romans associated her with
> Ceres
> > > but
> > > > also worshipped her in her own right.
Shrines were deditaed to her in
> > > > Pompeii and Delos and even the Emperor
Gaius himself dressed in female
> > > > clothing and joined the mystery
celebrations. Her Latin epithet was
> > > Stella
> > > > Maris" ("Star of the Sea")
but she was also known as "Regina Coeli" (
> > > queen
> > > > of heaven").. However, her cult was
considered by some to be a
> > destructive
> > > > influence on civilised society. The
Emperor Augustus described the
> > rituals
> > > > as 'pornographic' and tried to promote
Roman gods in her place.
> > > > Her cult eventually died out with the
spread of Christianity in the
> > Sixth
> > > > Centuary AD although many have argued
that her worship survived in the
> > > > Christian devotion to the "Virgin
Mary". Thus although her last temple
> > > > closed in 550AD, worship of Isis never
stopped, just changed form......... . .
> > > There is
> > > > certainly more than a passing resemblence
between images of the two,
> and
> > > > both were (according to myth) virgins
when they concieved their holy
> > > > offspring.
> > > >
> > > > However, unlike Mary, Isis was powerful
and independent in her own
> right
> > > and
> > > > not just as the mother of a god.
> > > >
> > > > Main page; Isis
> > > > Page three; Isis, Osiris and Horus
> > > > Page four; Isis and the Seven Scorpions
> > > > Page five; Isis and Ra
> > > >
> > > > Predynastic period Early Dynastic Old
Kingdom First Intermediate
> Middle
> > > > Kingdom Second Intermediate New Kingdom
Third Intermediate
> Graeco-Roman
> > > > period Late period
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: Viva Veridad
> > > > Date: 3/2/2009 4:50:54 PM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > I concur.
> > > >
> > > > From: JPB <debunks@sbcglobal. net>
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 2:33:38 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to
> > be
> > > > the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
> > > >
> > > > John, this book is rubbish.
> > > >
> > > > -------Original Message----- --
> > > >
> > > > From: John
> > > > Date: 1/19/2009 8:06:12 AM
> > > > To: israeliteidentity@ yahoogroups. com
> > > > Subject: [israeliteidentity] Two
Babylons: Papal Worship Proved to be
> > the
> > > > Worship of Nimrod and His Wife
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