Hi there,

I tried today to send 2 emails to 2 different recipients with yahoo.com
email addresses. Both emails came back with the message: "PERM_FAILURE:
Message rejected for Sector 5 policy reasons".

Can anybody explain what that means?

Who sent this message - Gmail or Yahoo? Who can be so idiotic to reject
an email and give only such a cryptic reason for it?

Thanks for your help!

you will have to paste a copy of the message with the header info
before we can tell you who sent it.

... here the header of the message I got:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------------------
X-Gmail-Received: a560668960c215c5f2d8b32b6b2c67b527ece4bb
Delivered-To: [email address]
Received: by 10.70.97.8 with SMTP id u8cs7814wxb;
        Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:40:54 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <>
Received: by 10.35.121.2 with SMTP id y2mr2026366pym;
        Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[email address]>
To: [email address]
Subject: Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------------------

And this is the header of my original message as it is shown in the
mail with the failure notification:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------------------
Received: by 10.35.121.2 with SMTP id y2mr1556475pym;
        Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <[email address]>
Received: from ?192.168.2.100? ( [12.164.196.100])
        by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id
f19sm88620pyf.2006.04.22.09.40.52;
        Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:40:53 -0700 (PDT)
User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209
Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2006 09:40:51 -0700
Subject: Re: TV cabinet
From: zzzzzzzz <[email address]>
To:  <[email address]>
Message-ID: <C06FAAA3.A0F3%zzzzzzzz@googlemail.com>
Thread-Topic: TV cabinet
Thread-Index: AcZmK4PywrwoIdIeEdqLtAAUUWQ51A==
In-Reply-To: <20060418232424.9117.qmail@web60811.mail.yahoo.com>
Mime-version: 1.0
Content-type: text/plain;
        charset="ISO-8859-1"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
---------------------------------------------------------------------------­--------------------------------

Does this make it easier to find out and  explain what has happened
here?

Greetings

The Gmail/Googlemail is one that sent the message and it could be that
the yahoo mail box could be full and not accepting any more mail.  are
you using a Gmail address or a Googlemail.com address.

So Gmail/Googlemail is the culprit ... I would not have expected that
from Google. I doubt that this is due to a full mail box because
Section 5 is some kind of anti spam organisation.

I'm having a googlemail.com address. When I signed up I had to do this;
I could not take a gmail.com address. (What's the difference anyway
between these two?)

I'm experiencing the same problem, and it just started.

I received a message, along with 57 other recipients.  This is the same
list of people I have been corresponding with for a long time.  I did a
"reply all," as I usually do, and, for the first time, all 57 outgoing
messages were "rejected for Sector 5 policy reasons."  All of the
addresses are correct and current, and I have no problem sending to
them individually.

>From what I have read in this discussion group, it appears that the

Sector 5 rejections are from GMail.  Does anyone know what changed?  Is
there now a limit on the number of people you can address an outgoing
message to?  How do we find out and what can be done about it?

-- Fred